Yeh Rishta Kya Kehlata Hai 27th June 2023 Written Episode, Written Update on TellyUpdates.com
The Episode starts with Manish pacifying Akshu. He says you have to keep Abhir with you, Manjiri will try to snatch him, the relations are there until the battle begins, once the battle begins, its Dharm to think of winning it. Manjiri says its your and Abhir’s right to stay together. Abhi asks what about Abhinav and Akshu’s rights. She says I know I did wrong with them and Aarohi, but what shall I do, I can’t unsee what I m seeing. He says I can lose my son because of this, the case is going to court. She says I did that for your and Abhir’s betterment. He says matter got complicated. She says I have faith on law system, you don’t need to share Abhir. He says I don’t want to snatch Abhir. She says you three can’t share Abhir, nothing will be half, it will be complete, either win or lose. He says but what you said is right. Surekha says Manjiri and Abhi won’t step back, court battle isn’t easy, remember what happened last time, they insulted Abhinav’s status. Suwarna says but Abhir stays with Abhinav and Akshu. Surekha says Abhi saved Abhir’s life, Abhinav can’t do anything. Manish says you and Abhinav have raised Abhir, I won’t let him go away from you. Abhi explains Manjiri. He says I don’t want to snatch any relation from Abhir, I want to get my relation with him. She says you have to snatch.
Abhi says Abhinav has driven cars to earn living for Abhir, Akshu has studied law when she was scared for this day, why shall we make them worry more. She scolds him. Dadi says Manish, don’t forget, we have a relation with Birla family, it will never break, think about Aarohi and Ruhi, this can affect them also, you should have not told about court. Manish asks would I let Akshu’s house break. Kairav comes. He asks what’s the matter. Akshu says nothing, marriage got over, we were crying, can’t I cry happily, leave it, you did packing or not, you have to go on honeymoon. Kairav says yes, Neela told about another rasam. She says we have preparations for it. She jokes on Kairav. Abhinav comes and gives the ring for the rasam. Akshu looks at him. Neela asks about Abhi. Muskaan says yes, where are Abhi and Manjiri. Abhir says I will get them. Manish asks Akshu to start the rasam, they will come if they want. Abhinav says Manish is hurrying so that you don’t miss the flight. Abhir gets Abhi and Manjiri. Akshu puts the ring in the bowl.
Its night, Abhinav and Abhir are sleeping. Akshu sees Abhinav and cries. She recalls Manjiri’s words. yeh Rishta…plays… She lies to sleep. Abhinav thinks I m not able to say anything, just two words are written on this blank paper, Akshu and Abhir. She turns towards him. He turns away and cries.
Its morning, Abhir wakes up. He puts Akshu’s pic and goes out. He asks Abhinav to play football. He asks where did dad go. Akshu says I will call him. He sees a letter on the table. He reads.. Abhir will stay with his real dad now, so I m leaving this house, I will never come back. Abhir cries and wakes up from dream. He says it was a bad dream, dad can’t leave me and go, he loves me a lot. He gets up and puts Akshu’s pic frame. He asks Akshu to call Abhinav. She asks what happened, don’t worry. He says I can’t live without dad. He sees a letter on the table and worries. Abhinav comes. Abhir runs and hugs him. He asks where did you go, I was scared, I know you know you aren’t my real dad. Abhinav cries. Akshu is shocked.
Abhir says I will become the best son, please don’t leave me. He cries. Abhinav hugs him. He says you are the world’s best son, sorry, I didn’t understand this. Abhir says no, I m very sorry, I should have told you. Abhinav says you know I love you a lot. Abhir says you also know I love you a lot, promise me, you will never leave me and go. Abhinav looks at him.
Precap:
Akshu says we can’t lie to Abhir, he should know about the court case. She says Abhir, we are going to Udaipur for your custody case. Abhinav says your real dad wants you to live with him. Abhir says someone ask me with whom I want to live.
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Abhir truly loves abhinav ❣️❣️. Currently this is the only serial in which, kids are not irritating after knowing adoption truth. Big relief.
And Abhi has also won his love❤. He should not be separated from any of them.
That’s why the best solution is still co-parenting!
Navpamaa 🤣
Abhimanyu still thinking about sharmas😍
Finally he didnt follow his mother blindly nd kept his points 😍
Both oldies are provoking their children for custody case😏
Story is not going anywhere.. Even makers dont know what to show anymore.. Ghum fir ke fir se custody case jo pata nai kab hoga🥱🥱
Seriously surabhi,some people get blind in love but you are blind in hate for abhinav for each and every step he takes or does.
Totally agree
@mahi really? Why you think so? From a year people call abhimanyu as toxicmanyu trashmanyu monstermanyu promisemanyu and you people never question them.. Nd when I call nav jiii as God or navpamaa you people have a problem.. Atleast m not using foul language like you people use eg-trashmanyu toxicmanyu monstermanyu
They called names but did not critizised the character expressing his emotions, you are criticising yet religiously watched everyday🤣🤣🤣
Toxicmanyu has not yet informed sharmas abt backing out from custody case for the sake of abhir. Promisemanyu didn’t inform manjiri abt akshara’s love confession to nav. That confession thing would have ended her false picture of perfect fam.
Did he knew what his mother is thinking?
He & Everyone knew what his mother is thinking. She herself sai – akshara, abhir, manyu are perfect family & nav should drop. Manyu knew that akshara love abhinav but manjiri don’t know. Manjiri is still thinking akshara is living with nav in name sake relationship.
@ pikachu
Dude why would he tell his mother something thats personal to navra something even he should not have heard but did by chance.
To top it what was the point telling manjiri all this when she herself had told manyu to stay away from the sharma couple n their marriage so even in the wildest of his dreams he would not think that the same manjiri is thinking all that crap.
Yeh sahi hai manyu kuch kare toh woh toxic hai kuch na kare toh toxic.
Usko sapne aare the kya his mother is going against her own words n psyche.
Manijiri herself admitted in front of everyone that manyu, akshu and abhir are perfect family. She want that to happen
@shan here the scenario being discussed is before she said those things. And u are saying that she said those things.
Whether Akshara loves Abhinav or not does not give Manjiri the right to ask a husband to leave his wife for his son’s happiness! PERIODT! We are talking about morality here!
Omg would you chill? You act as if you were called PromiseManyu, he earned those names, he makes promises he can’t keep. Your wonderbreadManyu was busy using a CHILD as an emotional crutch and making promises to that child that he knows he can’t keep. All you have on Nav is that he is an emotional man while your man just kept prepared divorce papers around for instant divorce, Manyu doesn’t value any relation that isn’t his mother. Your man has issues admit it and collect him.
@Surabhi, I agree, in a private moment Abhimanyu told his mother, Manjiri, she is wrong. It fascinates me how in this forum that character can never to right for the majority of commentators.
What is the use of telling his mother she is wrong in private?? He should voiced out right there n then! He was condoning her wrong publicly!
You are the most immature commentator here Surabhi. Grow up and go get a life
No story progression on this episode just one good thing that Abhir loves Abhinav dearly ….we missed their bonding scene …
Makers show busy showing navpamaa’s bond with abhir all the time that they even forget to show akshu’s bond with her child🤣🤣🤣🤣
This comment shows that you haven’t understand the current story correctly and accordingly which characters they focus mainly.🙄🙄🙄
@😂 yaa i know abhimanyu and akshara are sidelined especially abhimanyu and now its all about navpamaa
Dr.Aarohi Goenka please leave this baby boy and his toxic mumma,take your child and go elsewhere!!!
There is no hope in Birla land
See.. you haven’t got it. This is mainly about the two fathers. Few days ago you were overjoyed thinking abhinav character got sidelined. But now you are doing a big drama than yrkkh seing abhinav character. But don’t cry and have patience next will be Abhi’s turn. Then you can party.
Last week she was mocking abhinav for not getting any screen space and praising abhimanyu for getting more screen space but now she has a problem that they are giving abhinav more screen space,stupid.
Contradiction at it’s best! 🤣🤣🤣
Yes @😂 we know now they are focusing on Abhir’s future which pretty much involve Abhinav! So ofc more scene!
@Surabhi
Remember how the other characters are ruined to create conflict to Abhimanyu and Akshara, so that they can be overcome & shown as super or whatever???????? There is no fair and equal fight.There is always superiority to Abhi because he ML.
Now makers are creating conflict to Abhimanyu by NOT ruining Abhinav’s character.This shows equality between characters.
This is where we have to appreciate the writing.
Now we have the conflict between 2 father’s , to win Abhir.
Instead of thinking that Navapama is taking too much screentime and Abhi is sidelined, realise that conflict is between 2 equal people.
@😎 everyone knows abhimanyu will win but abhir will go back to akshnav and might hate abhimanyu
There is potential for Abhimanyu’s character development in this custody track.
Are u 100% sure??
@Surabhi.
I believe that Disney India probably prevailed on DKP to change what looked certainly like the death track of Nav. This is because what is showing is almost an exact opposite to that.
StarPlus isn’t ready to gamble with this show as a lot of their own line ups are undergoing story refreshes and in this one the story had become stable.
@Meed, I get the impression they don’t shy away from killing off popular characters in this show, eg the much loved Neil, and Akshara senior, who was the central character of the Yrkkh saga. I am not sure Abhinav was meant to die, not at this stage. Yes much millage was got from the damsel thrown out by her frog-prince into the arms of a kindly stranger and we were gripped by whether the reformed prince would win back his princess hand. Now the story would focus fully on what makes a father, nature or nurture. Seeing Abhir flip-floping between two Dads, we will witness the bonds Rishta between his two Dad’s either falter or strengthen, and the dasmel would follow the child. I think an Abhira reunion is signposted in this, but it won’t be the return to love, instead it would be a relationship of convinence built around the love of a son. Abhinav would quietly step aside for the love of his son.
@Meed.
I agree that the makers still leave the Abhira option open throughout. One would be out of his mind to discount the eventuality of a reunion. Now the reunion looks to be one of convenience as you put it. I think all these in between episodes are to sketch the way to the destination. A lot still is in the makers hands of course.
I agree that Abhir will be seen making sense of his new reality and while this is going to be heart rending to his two dads who love him a lot. Yes a lot of the screen time would be on Abhir and his three parents and their dynamics which continues the Abhimanyu and Akshara and now Abhinav topsy-turvy, hot and cold relations.
What is navpama??
Simply put Navpama is a derogatory nickname given to Abhinav following on the custody hearings where he has since exhibited anxiety, panic attacks, frenzy, and nervous breakdowns. During this wedding on seeing Akshara make up provisionally, as it now is with Manjiri and also her friendship with Abhimanyu he became insecure and worried often crying a lot. Just like Anupama. So when this nickname is used, the Hindi word rona-dhona which means crying profoundly follows.
@Meed may I ask what is rona-dhona
@Huh.
It means to weep, to lament. To cry profusely to suffer emotional distress like that of Abhinav in recent days, to be melodramatic. To be caught up in one’s own sorrow. Actually rona means to weep in Hindi and dhona means to wash. So the word is a portmanteau word which describes the act or behaviour of crying in a way that is deemed excessive.
@Sivk; @Huh.
You’re welcome.
Thank you for the detailed explanation! @Meed 🥰
@Meed Tks so much!
@Shan although I am not indian, I guess it mean Abhinav n Anupama combined 🤣🤣🤣
Somebody please remind Manjiri what she did in Neil’s adoption case. She also didn’t tell Harsh that Neil was his son. She also hid the truth fearing the consequences. She was, is and will be the dumbest character in the show’s history. I am not a supporter of akshnav and now I don’t have any interest in abhira also. Every time I think that ‘Enough, now the makers can still make it right atleast’ they do something so kachra that now the show has become a shit. It is irreversible. I can’t stand it anymore. Now I regret not continuing my fanfictions. Atleast they used to give me some peace. Now I am just gonna follow the show reading the precaps and seeing how much writers can ruin this show.
Agreed with everything u have said especially akshnav and abhira what i was really interested in was for them to show how both the fathers who come from completely different backgrounds having one thing in common ie the love for their kid learn to adjust in each other’s space and how arohi raises ruhi as a single mother alongside her career.
@Urmi The three parents would have somehow co existed and found a solution if the adults didn’t interrupt…
@Urmi, I think we are heading into the story line of the two fathers and a boy and their ups and downs.
Now the story would focus fully on what makes a father, nature or nurture. Seeing Abhir flip-flopping between two Dads, we will witness the bonds/Rishta between his two Dad’s either falter or strengthen, and Alshara would follow the child. I think an Abhira reunion is signposted in this, but it won’t be the return to love, instead it would be a relationship of convinence built around the love of a son. Abhinav would quietly step aside for the love of his son.
@Rai I agree here but Abhira’s return will definitely bring their 🤢(Piaar) to life at some point
Abhimanyu tried to keep his point but again got sushed by his mother this shows that there is an immense control of his mother in his life and after knowing that whatever his mother is doing is wrong he cannot raise words against his mother same way about Akshara and Manish because after watching yesterday and today ‘s episode I feel very much that Manish was very much provoked by Manjiri ….but still Akshara should have also kept her point firmly …ohh yes this is a ITV …respect elders and their opinions ..even if they are wrong….sad..
You all are barking like dogs here jo makers ko banana hoga vo hi banayege. Mark my words that abhira will be the endgame vese mujhe vo kuch khaas pasand ti nhi h but still they will reunite one day whatever the reason will be🥱🥱🥱
@Challenger yess after death …
@shilajit let’s see
@Challenger I am telling death …that means it maybe Abhinav’s death though I don’t want that and maybe also both lovers death…anything can happen..
@shilajit may be or may be not😉
@shilajit i dont think abhinav will die
Unless makers decide to bring new generation leap or Harshad or pranali decide to leave the show Abhira won’t be dead which I don’t think makers intend to do right now so it will be abhira reunion may be after some more tracks. Curiosity is only for Abhinav that what are they intending to do with him.
Yes at the last episode like Sairat will be in today’s episode of ghum 🤣
Till then it’s Navra
I’m so happy, abhir loves so much to abhinav. please manjiri open your eyes and see who is perfect family? abhinav, akshu and abhir are a perfect family. manjiri are only responsible for abhimanyu losing his son and ruhi forever. now it is clear harshad quitting the show. because akshu love nav plus abhir couldn’t live without abhinav. akshu is not trusting on abhimanyu and manjiri. and it’s a highly possibility to aarohi broke his engagement with abhimanyu and leave the birla house too.
I don’t think it is a solution for kid..he loves his both father and they can easily coexist together..if manjiri and abhi drop their rigid behaviour…well there is no need to keep him with him..just tell him who is his biological dad and abhi can come time to time to spend time with him and akshara and abhinav should also corporate and let abhir spend his time with his dad and his family….and they can use a way to send abhir to his biological dad’s house to spend his time with him…by this way they both hv their time and love..and can be the part of his life equally…
@pearl They could do the same but manish and psycho manjiri and the adults of the family interfered. Else the three parents could find a solution without dragging the case in the court
Abhir nav bond >>>>. That selfish lady should witness abhir’s love for his dad. Can’t wait for Arohi to leave that mental hospital. Hats off to karishma’s sportiveness. She bashed back a fellow for bullying her. saddist fans blame Ks for her angry expression towards their activities but never discuss about the disrespectful behaviour that triggered her. Never saw a disgusting toxic fandom like abhira. The way they defend indefensible things by their nonsense statements is irritating. They disrespect, bully, sl*tshame each and every single side characters. Their demands belike they want nothing expect abhira as if 3+ trp is achieved only by the romance of leads between four walls. They didn’t understand that romancing alone is not chemistry but lust. Have these people ever heard of tags shivika, avneil, rivanya, behir, vani, jenshad and etc. At present raya’s chemistry is good. Some evergreen shows are highly recomended for abhira fans. They must watch such shows then only they know what chemistry is? Abhira is cringe and their fans are as annoying and disgusting as manyu and his mom.
“romancing alone is not chemistry but lust” 🤣🤣🤣
so couple be it married or not shouldn’t romance??? So where the next generations gonna come from??? Will you please define “lust” and ” chemistry”
@Sivk.
😂😂😂. Do you really mean that? Well for me YRKKH has its own way of storytelling, KKB has its own way as well. Making Gen 3 a love triangle however quickly abandoned, broke the mould. Now Akshara remarrying broke the mould, there are still recurring themes from previous generations but this story is that of Akshara and all her relationships. It is no longer doing justice to compare her journey directly to that of Naira.
So much screen time for leads affected the balance of the story telling. Now the addition of a well constructed character such as Abhinav is bringing a balance. I would like to see more of Kairav and Muskaan more of Ruhi and more of Aarohi. These characters also have relationships with Akshara and surely their interactions can form a story.
@Meed 🤣🤣🤣
I should be one to feel weird here😅. I ask u the same what is chemistry and lust according to u. I never told that couple shouldn’t romance. But I oppose forced romance which is done forcefully under the compulsion of aunties especially in arrange marriages. Stop considering marriage as a license for everything. Ur statement is indirectly conveying that an individual can never live without having s*x. Willingly or unwillingly we have do that so that next generations gonna come.Stop considering human body only as s*x toy. Love is a beautiful feeling, caring, laying on our partners lap, daily talks which makes us happier also is chemistry man. Coming to abhira for them their egos are more important than their love. They lack trust on each other, never supported each other during tough times, consumated their love without cleaning their misunderstandings. This is not love
@Msdism.
I agree with you on the context of Akshara’s love and on the events of this generation. Your point is salient.
Thank you
@Msdisme you are right about Abhira’s story
“romancing alone is not chemistry but lust” 🤣🤣🤣
As above you mentioned! You consider romance as lust isn’t it?
Lust meaning strong s*xual desire according to google
What I mean is, romance is what couple usually do out of love n attraction of both party, isn’t it?
Yeah I said that dialogue keeping abhira in mind. Romance is what done out of love of attraction of both people right? Here attraction is available, where is love? Let me ask u a question. How can a person take a relationship to next level without breaking the ice between them. That cringe couple consummated their love despite having lots of complications. This is not love so obviously it’s not romance. Then what is it? Infatuation, lust or give some better words so that I can follow it next time. Not even single thing is adorable in abhira like I mentioned above.
I don’t consider romance as lust. The term “romance alone”, romance without love, romance without understanding, romance without trust okay and example of such romance is abhira. Atleast do u get it now?🤕🤕🤕
May I know what century ur living in??? @Msdism
For me this is progressive may be ur not matured enough in understanding all these stuff. Please explain in detail what made u think like that.
Please explain what made u felt that way.
What make you think romance is lust?
Don’t comment without reading properly. Romancing without love and understanding is lust. Forced romance is lust. The thing between abhira is definitely lust. They thought they love each other but actually it’s nothing except two days attraction. And attraction is not love
Manish is really a hypocrite, in this whole situation he only thought of Akshara, for the moment Arohi has not yet cut his ties with Birla he should have taken into account his situation too, before talking about the custody case. Abhimanyu didn’t have any intention towards Akshara or Abhinav, but some will always attribute intentions to him even when things are clear. Manjiri and Manish have complicated the situation in many ways. Abhir and Abhinav’s bond is very strong, Abhir’s dream seems premonitory to me. But as I said Abhinav has more responsibilities towards Abhir than Akshara, because before becoming the real husband of Akshara he was first the father of Abhir he will have to keep this promise not to leave him, the feelings of Abhir are the most important.
Everyone have to throw bad comments on abhi as he don’t want to snatch akshu nav and abhir’s family just want a little space in abhir’s life at least he tried to change manjiri’s thoughts but if she has set up her mind then what to do but akshu didn’t tried at least a time to stop the custody case. I am not having any problem with sharmas but just stop hating Abhi
@Mia, true for some, that Abhimanyu loves Abhir is a crime, he will always blame him for something even when all his feelings are only for his son.
@yeol exactly!!!
Abhir will himself give the smack of truth on the face of Manjiri and Abhimanyu.
He will say i will love you and visit you but stay will stay only with my mumma papa.
@shyra abhimanyu will be ok with it just like how he is ok now.. He just wants his son to know that he is the father.. Whats wrong in it?
@yeol
I agree with everything except, Manish is a hypocrite for not thinking about Aru. Or lets start at the beginning. Which planet is suhasini residing on? Is it the same earth? After all they saw and heard from Manjiri, they wish for Aru to keep pursuing the wedding? Manjiri did not think about them ever since Abhir appeared but still they dare keep hopes on Birlas? They should instigate Aru to leave Birlas if they care about her and Ruhi.
@Mark I say he is hypocritical because even if Arohi after the low blow that Manjiri gave her without thinking about the 6 years she spent standing with her and showing her respect, she should honestly leave the Birla house. But Manish should know that if Arohi gets unhappy with something she always ends up saying it, she hasn’t decided yet and they know they can’t convince her when she makes her own decisions. He should have thought of her, he should have taken her into account because Manish and Manjiri do not have to interfere in the decision-making of their children. He must also be responsible to Arohi until she can make up her mind because she is still thinking, whatever the situation Manish must think of both.
So you mean Manish should keep quiet after Abhinav n Akshara’s marriage was insulted by Manjiri and by doing so he is proctecting Aarohi?? Mind you it’s Aarohi that revealed to Manish what Manjiri did!
@yeol
If we go by the fact that Aru did not speak means she is still on about the wedding, then Manish did not think about her. But we must give him benefit of doubt because all these crimes, Aru reported Birlas to them. So Manish would be like, “are we still related with birlas? How?”
@Mark right!
Exactly.. If manjri is selfish so is manish.. He cant be justified just coz he is with akshnav
@surabhi and this manish is doing the dumb things. He always used to think about akshu and his so called jamai sa even he forgot about aaru that she is a part of birla house at least he should think about her also . I know some people want aaru to leave birla house but she has not leaved it and used to live in birla house and i think there were only AG who used to think about aaru but he is not there too. So obviously she feels alone as ruhi is the only one who loves her matashree and aaru loves her ruhi more than anyone else
@surabhi i completely agree with you
@mia no one ever remembers aru nd her daughter roohi.. Everyone remembers akshu ka dukh dard but no one remembers what aaru went through
@surabhi exactly
@Mia
Manjiri is an ungrateful b*t*h. Aarohi changed herself, took care of Manjiri for 6 years, roamed behind her giving her medicines and juices, gave her the happiness of becoming grandmother and supported her emotionally leaving her own pain of becoming widow and now Manjiri threw away Aarohi and Ruhi once she got to know about her khoon, as I said, she never considered Neil as her own, if she did that she used to think about Ruhi too. Aarohi in the first place was never interested in getting re-married, that too to Abhimanyu. She was happy being single mother, but this mad lady kept pushing her using emotional card, kept giving her hopes and feeding her illusions only to throw her down after a while. I always felt Goenkas were worst towards Aarohi, but Manjiri did much more worst to her because now her little daughter is also dragged in this mess. She should have moved out of that house immediately after Ruhi’s birth but didn’t so that Ruhi gets her family atleast if not father. If there is any Goenka who tried to manage both sisters, it’s Kairav.
@siya i agreed and am not saying that it’s just manish everyone thinks of akshu and don’t even remember aaru it’s just kairav who care about aaru and her cute ruhi and yeah manjiri should stop now it’s more than enough
@Mia, even when Akshara was doing stupid things the Goenka Family was always there for her. Kairav always showed a little more love to Arohi but his favorite was always Akshara. Vansh liked Arohi a lot but too bad he was never shown too much on screen. Akhilesh also liked Arohi a lot but we didn’t see him too often. I agree with you.
@yeol 😊😇
You say this now but when Akshu reserves a soft spot for Aru, you blame her for being there for her as she knows her situation.
@Yeol, true Manish has always favoured Akshara. Arohi has felt worthless in Manish’s eyes, he dismissed her maternal family, as dirty blood, disreputable and Arohi felt that polluted his attitude towards her. Arohi’s obbession with number one for me is about getting her grandfather’s approval. I feel he let’s her down mostly.
Old man Manish’s proposal on relations following the custody outcome hopeful makes Akshara realise Abhir is a person, and what matters most is his happiness, and that she loves him the most; not Abhinav and her gratitude towards him, nor her grudge and antipathy towards Abhimanyu.
@Rai
When the outcome of the custody arrives, not only Akshu but also Manyu and Nav will be expected to act based on what Abhir wishes.
At that situation ofc Manish main focus is Akshara! Why drag Aarohi in? He just shouldn’t had brought up the custody case! Why don’t u question Manjiri? Is Manjiri not wrong? Did she thinks of Aarohi n Ruhi? She keeps saying Abhir, Akshara n Abhi are perfect family, forgetting about Aarohi n Ruhi??
@Mark, yes, the hope now is that someone will ask Abhir what he wants.
I was, still am fuming with Manish’s formulation. It was all about saving Akshara’s marriage and punishing Manjiri.
Manyu was guilty tripping and acting confused and innocent to what his mom was saying and did to Nav, but he forgets what he said to Manjiri in the camp. No worries, i will remind everyone. He said he didnt want to marry Aru. So after saying that and after showing to his mom that he can never be fully happy with Ruhi but will be fully happy with Abhir when Akshu is in the picture too, how can he be innocent if he conditioned his mom to do just that? This is not the first time and will not be the last time. He once showed Akshu that he is loosing everything because of his hand and when Akshu acted on his words and action, by doing anything for his everything, she became bad. I am on Manjiris side except when she deluded herself to see that Akshu wants that too. Manjiri was hypnotised and conditioned to act on her sons happiness after her son defined it for her. Afterall, which mother wouldnt move hell and earth for her son?
Anyways, got to cut my comm short as i have more pressing matters to discuss with @yeol and @vandana.
Why Manish didn’t speak about Aarohi?????
Not only here, during Neil’s death also he or suwarna never went to calm her, except Kairav.
And same people keep wondering why she has insecurities 🙄🙄???
Sadly our Aru is not an FL 😒 it would be interesting if she had the same spotlight as Akshu…. I’d want her to meet a foreign guy who was also a single parent and then they’d bond and the kids would bond and then she’d marry and go overseas and live happily with her new family and the best part is psycho can’t try to take Ruhi cause Aaru has ALL the parental rights
I am still 🤬 at the writers who ruined her character and destroyed Neirohi.
Like you said she should meet a new guy and Excel in her career
@Jade
If Aarohi had the same spotlight that of Akshu and Abhimanyu would be just a husband of one of the FL and a parallel lead, this generation story would have been worth watching. But, Garima, the old writer wanted to do cringe🥴 I still don’t understand with what face Abhira blind fans call them iconic😂
I wish Aaru also gets a new guy like how Akshu got Abhinav who loves her and Ruhi unconditionally and keep them as top priority. After all that she went through, she deserves happiness and love too, though she is self sufficient for herself. You know, people compare Sai and Akshara and debate on who went through more mess but I feel Sai and Aarohi’s fates are similar in many ways, not in nature but by fate. Sai lost her father and became orphan, Aarohi though has bunch of people is still orphan. The only difference is Aarohi got a good, understanding husband whom she didn’t value when he was there and when she understood his value and mended ways, she lost him to death making her life miserable and Sai got a trashcan as her husband who ripped her soul apart. One more difference is Aarohi have an amazing daughter who loves her mother the most but there we have Savi who won’t get tired of her baba jhaap.
@Siya, Sai didn’t deserve to stay in love with Virat until the end. This man is the worst Ml I have seen, even individually he cannot be loved and their fans are so happy that Sai still loves him.
Psychojiri what you going to do when you go home and Aru and Ruhi don’t go with you, this faulty fossil is going to have a big house and hospital with no kids cause Shivu too will leave with his mother. I’m sure the deal she was scheming with Mahima against Shefali will come to the surface and 💥 all psychojiri’s relations will be gone, maybe Abhi too will leave her and find his papa and live happily with him and bond with his own dad… Abhimanyu has some serious issues stemming from his estranged relationship with daddy Harsh that he needs to sort out in his life, he can’t truly love someone until that big self demon is dragged out from under his bed and faced. Manyu needs to cut away from his mothers pallu and burn it. Some moms are toxic, it’s the way of the world; they will f**k you up in ways you never thought possible, not every relationship is as wholesome as what they project in entertainment, you get psychojiri’s in real life and you have to unfortunately cut them away. There is a true crime case where a MIL was so intrusive in her son’s marriage that she got her daughter in law murdered AFTER she divorced her useless son who wasn’t able to choose his wife and kid over his mommy dearest and let mommy dictate his life. Mommy went to jail and her baby boy never made contact with his own kid again… probably drunk in a ditch somewhere cause his life got wrecked by mommy. I’ve seen good moms and moms who give you a life time of self doubt and mental and emotional trauma, I’ve also seen present dads, absent dads and dads who eventually marry the step daughter 🤮 (like seriously you watched her grow up you creep) anyway my point is entertainment aims to make parents (especially Indian ones) seem like they have all the power no matter how f**ked in the head they are, this is why I like the nuclear family, you can cut all those chords off and ignore the rest of the family barking and trying to guilt you, but in these serials there is this underlying fear of what will society say. Back to this, the 2 Abhi’s and Akshu would have co parented on their own if psycho didn’t stir the pot and open her cursed mouth, all I want is for Manyu to step out his mother’s shadow and start a new life be it with some other woman or a known character as long as he loves her healthily and not destructively and he can have joint custody with NavRa healthily.
People say Ruhi is a child of the Birla house and has a right to be there, Ruhi is a daughter who they will marry off one day which is why psycho never considered Ruhi once in her hunger for her grandson. It’s better if Ruhi is away from this toxic b*t*h before she hurts Ruhi in a way that emotionally traumatises her for life.
No arohi scenes for a while, I wanted Aaru to confront her wonderful Maa and tell her she’s taking her kid away from Birla house cause Ruhi is not a priority after all the promises mother and son made. PromiseManyuJiri.
They are keeping the truth from Kairav, when he finds out he will feel hurt, I understand where they are coming from in wanting him to have a happy honeymoon without any tension but as an older brother he has a right to know, I’m an older sibling I want to know my little nuggets problems no matter what I’m busy with.
@Jade.
I agree. This supermom just overturned the understanding that her son was building however imperfect that was. She is now discouraging him from pursuing such a friendly approach. Well the flipside is that Abhir is his mirror image. Abhi will now see a teaser of his relationship with his father when Abhir gives him trouble for separating him from his family. This man knows that his mother’s approach is wrong but he just cannot stop himself from boarding this vehicle to nowhere. What a pit?! Then what a pity?!
@Jade
Bro, Goenkas cheated Kairav by hiding everything😂 I badly want him to know everything and start round 2 of orasting and then leave for his honeymoon. I know I’m being harsh on newly weds snatching their private time but I can’t help and yearn to see more of Manjiri’s roasting😂
Manjiri didn’t even love Neil equally as Abhimanyu, so what will she love his child, the only one for whom Ruhi is top of her world is her mother. None cares for Ruhi sincerely other than Aarohi, after that maybe Kairav and Akshara. Initially, I liked Abhimanyu-Ruhi scenes but from the time Ruhi met Akshara, her bonding with her Maasi looks more pure and genuine than with her poppy because she’s not emotional crutch for Akshara. As I said, if Akshu dies one day, she can die peacefully because she know Abhinav will always be there for Abhir but Aarohi can’t eevn die peacefully because he daughter will become literal orphan with people in the name of family around her like how she became after Sirat and Kartik’s death. I wish Neil was alive today, his both girls are suffering in his absence and the person from whom he took promise used his daughter as emotional crutch.
@jade
Its true about moms destroying their sons life due to overstepping their boundaries. This is why its advisable for moms to steer clear of their children lives once they are adults.
@Siya
Even i am not satisfied with the roasting but i am willing to get it in installments. Looking forward to Kairavs part.
@Meed
I agree with you. I like the sound of “This supermom just overturned the understanding that her son was building however imperfect that was”. What Manjiri is suggesting now is madness. Like either win or loose? Better what Manish is saying i.e. we have to win. Which means if they loose, they will beg. But Manjiri is suggesting that if they loose, they will give up.
@Mark.
Sorry I had missed your reply.
I agree. Manjiri isn’t sure of the ramifications but she thinks the fight is worth it. Then how is she sure that the understanding wouldn’t work? How dare she compare young Abhir to a plot of land? Akshara’s reply to her shows how well Akshara understands her. She was trying to allocate Akshara back to the Birla house like some object. This is a woman objectifying both Akshara and Abhir. She deserves more than tongue lashings.
What if Manjiri hears after returning to udaipur that Mahima also going to file a custody case😱😳🤪
Mahima was planning on against Shefali and told Manjiri she’d support her against Akshu if Manjiri supported her against Shefali and this was after Manjiri made all that big talk about a child belonging with its mother and giving her support to Shefali then she flip flopped so fast she probably gave herself whiplash. These Birla’s can’t be trusted
@😂.
It’s possible to have a comedy house horror. The Birla family have become a joke. They are pushing their weight around instead of meeting up with Abhinav and the Goenkas to discuss an amicable arrangement on Abhir like visiting them from time to time.
Abhimanyu the 40 and Manjiri the 39, both single and since love to stick around each other ….. Should get married.
I have a ship name…. ummmm
#Shit
They will look good together
Manjiri should wear kurti or polo or wrap or skirt
🤯
Chiii🤮🤮🤮🤮
What are you saying
Ok then Suit piece
Shappa 😂😂😂😂
@Shyra.
😂😂😂. Now you have got to be kidding here.
Yaa i am kidding
I remember that the so called Maa beta can never look like Maa-beta.
If Anupama and Anuj with 1 year difference (Anuj younger) can be a big ITV couple
With that thought i have mixed feelings over Manjiri and Abhimanyu.
😂
It’s strange and Awkward to realise that they casted someone younger than Harshad for Abhimanyu’s biological mother’s role 😏
@Shyra.
True. Yes the casting for this generation looks a bit strange. But they deliver their dialogues and act well most times.
Yes I agree the mother most be so special. Their onscreen bond is so good. Although I think Harshad makes acting look so easy.
@Shyra
You got to be kidding me😂 BTW, the casting is misplaced for all roles in this generation though all the actors are too good. The ML who was supposed to be around 35 have a character graph equal to 20 year old aggressive youth guy undergoing hormonal changes. The FL looks like she can be sister to the ML🥴 I remember Annika and Sahil of Ishqbaaz whenever I see FL with her son. The mother of ML doesn’t look like one, infact she looks like mother to Neil, Nishtha and Anisha but not to ML. The only chemistry I loved is Harsh-Abhimanyu as father-son, Akshara-Aarohi as sisters, Kairav-Akshara-Aarohi as siblings with old actor playing Kairav, Aarohi-Ruhi as mother-daughter, Neil-Aarohi as couple and Abhimanyu-Aarohi as both enemies and friends. I always loved face offs between Abhimanyu and Aarohi as no one used to be less than other and both the actors always gave stellar performances.
Akshara doesn’t age
She goes on hormonal change😂
She will naturally look different next year
@Shyra is it? Manjiri the actress is a yr younger than Abhi the actor?
Yes! @Sivk
People here hates if something is wrote about nav jii but they themselves spread soooo much hate for abhimanyu.. Seems only nav jii ke rone dhone ki taarif Or abhimanyu ki buraai hi likh sakte hai yaha😏😏
Surabhi-
Chill..everyday you have to think so much abt nav ji and his rona…its fine.. call him what you want.. but character wise – he is by far the sensible and well written one compared to manyu akshu or aru no matter how much cries
Also – ppl here hate dumbmanyu coz he is dumb.. yes he told his mom that she was wrong today only to be sushed by her again …like really..could he not atleast be affirmative that he wants abhir happiness and not own abhir like psycho lady wants him to do…
Also – ppl love HC but hate dumbmanyu- the character is so flawed n inconsistent – and yes..no one forgot his crying and constipated face…so both nav n manyu are winners of crying competition
@Surabhi, so true, some people have the audacity to say that we say negative things, because Nav cries a lot in a lot of episodes. 😂😂😂😂 he should first read all the negativity and heine that is spilled on Abhimanyu, even his age in real life is targeted to criticize him, some even make fun of the actor himself. And the character even in the episodes where he does nothing will be targeted for free, and some invent crazy ideas for him on extreme manipulation 🤣🤣. Honestly it’s the hospital that doesn’t care about charity 😂😂😂.
Oh god these people started again . I mean they are interfering in the actors Personal life they are making fun of ami trivedi and HC “indirectly”. If someone said the same for jay they’ll be like how could you say that and bla bla
Abhimanyu is becoming like the gray character because of his Family actions
@Surabhi
People here dislike Abhimanyu for his toxic, dumbness and being mute when required to speak. We have no issues with Abhinav crying because he’s crying due to valid reasons. You’ll understand him and his condition if you go through a life of any orphan closely. BTW, we never had problem when Abhimanyu or Akshara used to cry too, none are bigger cry babies than them, especially Akshara till leap 1.
Yesterday, I mentioned few names that twitter stans named for Abhimanyu but have you ever seen me using such names for characters here, I use names and emojis only in GHKKPM forum as the characters there are outright disgusting. I brought up those names just to show not just Abhinav but Abhimanyu also have many “nick names”, everything matching his personality, I’m sure even you picked navpama from twitter only, because only they can be soo cheap to name call every character. They call Akshu as Akchu, Bhakshu, Chukshu. They call Aarohi as jharohi, jharu, assrohi, shitrohi, b*t*hrohi and constantly overuse “🧹” emoji instead of her name. Have you seen anyone using such words here, so why do you have to bring navpama, it’s equally insulting like the above names.
I added Clownmanyu
Since he tries his best to keep Abhir and Ruhi entertained to earn their love
😂
It’s good but he is a doctor plus surgeon, he supposed to be busy.
His first duty should be his work which he hung it since a month ago
@siya lol I see daily people give names to abhimanyu here nd no one ever tell them anything.. But navpamaa sun ke sabko mirchi lagti hai
See
If next you get bashed it will be because of your taunts like today.
That’s why like @Rak said, chill and enjoy the sarcasm of opposite POV comments
@shyra same to you nav bhakts.. Dont get hyper seeing navpamaa🥱
Ok mam👌
@Shyra.
I heard that he is on a paternity leave/ sabbatical. So he is taking time off to recollect his thoughts and recharge his body so that when he resumes duty at Birla Hospital he will be at the top of his game. Handling more patients better than before.
Then think, once he gets busy… U may have idea that how much tight schedule Top level doctors like Abhimanyu have. Then in those times Abhir will feel lone in Birla House.
Manjiri will try hard to entertain but she is not a good influence.
Eventually Abhir will demand to get back to Kasauli.
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Jesus woman/man/non binary option who is hating Manyu for loving Abhir? No one, everyone gets that these are very delicate relations and Abhir is young, no one Sai Manyu should wander into a dessert and die just that he needs to understand he has to share Abhir and if he can’t share then he’s going to end up with nothing but hatred due to his controlling mother and his own unresolved daddy issues but you just sit and talk about Nav’s tears. Honestly your obsession with Nav shows that you like him and are unhappy you do so you’re lashing out. We’re out here looking at all characters and their sides except psycho cause she deserves to have her ex return with a new young wife and kid and she must sit and suffer and remember all her sins.
Manjiri from many days is screaming that Abhimanyu, Akshara and Abhir staying together is correct and that Abhinav should leave from their lives for Abhir’s sukhi parivaar, so why didn’t this lady divorce Harsh and leave from his life and let him stay with his love Avni and their son Neil and give up on Abhimanyu too for Neil’s sukhi parivaar🥴 I shouldn’t be saying this but damn I’m missing Harshvardhan Birla soo much, he’s the only one who can shut this lady up because I’m seriously fed up of her nonsense. I’m a second away to barge into my screen and smack that lady’s head😕
No words about Maa ka ladla, the moment his mother says, “Mujhe pata hai main galat hoon, par main kya karti” and cries, his mother will become most pious, pure hearted lady for him, the impact his dumb mother’s words created on opposite person can go to hell. Some people claim that Akshara is babysitting Abhinav, but it’s the other case here, Abhimanyu is baby sitting his mother🥴 This idiotic lady today remembered Aarohi again, I’ll break her nose if she goes behind Aaru and Ruhi again calling them beti beti. Aaru, my girl, what is it taking you to throw the ring on their face and walk out. I really hope she walks out of that mad house. Glad that atleast one person of Goenkas remembered there is another daughter of them named “Aarohi” and she has a little daughter “Ruhi”.
Many people are crying that Akshara just caressed Abhinav’s head and not Abhir’s, because she knows that at that moment Abhinav needs it the most. Abhir don’t know what happened and with what phase his mumma papa are going through and what phase his papa went through recently. That doesn’t make Akshara a bad mother. She knows that none can love Abhir more than Abhinav. She also knows that one day if she dies, she can die peacefully because she knows Abhinav is there for Abhir and will always be, Abhinav has earned that trust from Akshara and Abhir. Even I also agree that staying with a stranger during critical pregnancy is stupidity and she would be in trouble if Abhinav isn’t a good man, but considering present scenario, Abhinav has earned that trust, respect and love from Akshara.
As I said, Manjiri and Abhimanyu Abhir ko haasil kar sakte hai, lekin uska dil nahi jeet sakta. Atleast Abhinav have sense to not promise something if he isn’t sure of doing it unlike some great personality who gave all fake promises knowing he can’t fulfill them to little Ruhi and broke those promises along with her little heart, but played safe without promising when it came to his khoon. This mumma’s boy lost that 5% of sympathy/empathy I have for him. His real redemption would start the day he leaves his maa ka pallu. The biggest mumma’s boy of ITV Dev Dixit also went against his mother and strongly shut her up when she was barking nonsense and took strong stand for his daughter’s mother. And before someone say, Sonakshi didn’t replace father, Dev was not as pathetic and toxic as Abhimanyu. Both Dev and Sonakshi were equally bitter towards each other during separation.
@Siya.
You’re right. This mother has securely tied Abhimanyu’s will to hers that even when he knows the dangers he isn’t unable to pull away. He knew all the hidden details that Akshara had moved on and that Abhir loves Abhinav and yet he didn’t tell this to his mother. This is a conundrum of sorts. Why isn’t he divulging these facts. Manjiri’s antics the other day was clearly mistaken. Otherwise she was speaking Abhimanyu’s mind.
She would not have attacked Abhinav in this manner if that she knew all of those information.
Well I may be wrong here but Akshara loves Abhinav a lot and when Abhinav and Abhir are in the same frame she is first looking at Abhinav and then at Abhir indicating her trust love and respect for her husband. She knows how much Abhinav loves Abhir. Well Abhir had a dream where the connection to Abhinav’s reality looked better than when the PH tried to show the connection between Abhir and Abhimanyu. At least they listened to feedbacks.
@ meed i usually dont reply to your comments cause i see where ur thoughts come from n makes complete sense but this time Come on why would manyu tell his mother about akshu’s confession when in his mind his mother did not want him to have anything to do with akshara remember the latest conversation he had with his mother regarding akshara was : manjiri telling manyu not to even think about akshara n only focus on abhir to which he had agreed. So why would he think that his mother even wants them to reunite for him to make navra’s status known to her.
And after manyu got to know his mother’s intent akshara herself told manjiri that she loves nav. So what’s left for manyu to tell manjiri. And where he should have spoken ie for nav and abhir, he did he told his mother twice how much nav loves abhir in front of goenkas as well in private n how well he has raised abhir.
In short manyu should have told manjiri that akshu has moved on had he known manjiri is thinking of reuniting abhira but manjiri never showed any such desire if anything she kept telling manyu to stay away from her n bla bla.
Manyu is making a mistake by not taking a more firm stand against manjiri but he wasn’t wrong in not telling her sbout akshu having moved on simply cause it wasn’t necessary for manjiri to know granted her prima facie displeasure regarding akshara.
@Urmi. Yes there are some facts thats not necessary for manjiri to be told by abhi. But i feel if he clearly told what he wants, that he just wants to be with abhir and not akshara and not to break sharama family then manjiri would have become speechless. Bcz its her own son telling her infront of every one that he is not intersted with a perfect family idea of her. He should have told that by shushing his mother like she did to him.
@zara You are right n i agreed to that by already incorporating it in my previous comment that he is wrong in not taking a firm stand against manjiri.
@Urmi.
Yeah I hang up my hands here. You see I had only applied it to Abhimanyu. My explanation had not provided for Manjiri also hiding her plans from Abhimanyu, although I think I mentioned that the speed of her plans surprised Abhimanyu however I had not directly mentioned that Manjiri had hidden what she planned to do as well. Yes you’re right. Abhimanyu was aware that they were not on talking terms however when Akshara had burned her hand they had a soft reconciliation there and Abhimanyu saw how his mother had at least returned on speaking terms with Akshara so suggesting this could have made sense. But again here your point looks so solid this is a catch-22 because either way the options to Abhimanyu were limited and not doing anything to spoil the party was probably the best.
However I can say that he may have been so caught up in the arrangements that he had little to no time to discuss and chat with almost everyone else. This is because we rarely saw him with Ruhi as well.
But y abhimanyu will tell about akshu’s confession to his mom? Did he knew what his mom is secretary wishing?
@Surabhi.
True he had not known and they had not discussed. Also his mother had hidden it from him. While he was in the dark about her plans to reunite him. But now everything is going to be ruined as Abhir’s happiness as well as the whole three families are going to be affected adversely.
@Sia. You made me laugh with what you have written on manjiri. While reading i imagined all those you mentioned you wanted to do..🙆♀️ but then you made me teary with the sentence “She also knows that one day if she dies, she can die peacefully because she knows Abhinav is there for Abhir and will always be,..” I agree for the past years Abhinav earned trust, respect, love and everything. He always considers akshara and abhir as his world.
@Meed. Agree 100% specially on Abhir’s dream.
@Zara.
So true.
Akshara has faith in Abhinav and although like @Siya wrote there was a risk but it thankfully never became a nightmare. Abhinav brought her out instead from a nightmare. Where she has now found another kind of love without demands, without fear a love that only knows how to give. These are Akshara’s own words.
Yes Abhir’s dream sequence looked better executed and his connection to and his love for Abhinav was so endearing. Now I believe Abhinav’s days of insecurity are gone now he has the strength to fight for Abhir. I will like to see whether he makes the promise to Abhir.
@Meed. Agree..🙋♀️ and yeah.. me too waiting to see what abhinav’s answer will be.
@Siya this psychojiri is a conniving witch. Someone once said on this forum that she adopted Neil and didn’t tell the truth so Harsh would ill treat his illegitimate kid and psycho would get pleasure cause she’s making her sautan suffer through Neil. She’s always been psycho but initially she was seen through Manyu’s eyes as pure and delicate when she’s a vicious rabid rat. Yes Dev was a better ML, he was able to widen up. Dev and Sona’s pairing was so brilliant they brought them back for another round…. Similarly I wish we could see ShivIka again, they were a beautiful pairing, Jenny and Harshad as well. Very few pairings just make you go 🥺 the last one I was soft for was Ashi and Shagun in the early days of Meet. This lead pair is cringey, Nav and Akshu look well suited. Arohi had chemistry with Neil but Manyu had more chemistry with Mav than any female in this serial 🙈
@Siya
Something tells me that i shouldnt hold hopes on Aru wanting to leave Birlas. Recent expressions took my hopes away and i feel she will stay at birlas. Though i hope she does so as to keep them in line but she will stay there for wrong reasons which start and end up with Manyu. If that happens, i will loose some respect for these goenka sisters.
They could have just continued the understanding between the 3 and let them continue with the co- parenting thing but no! If it was this simple then why would we have this mental tension with all the bakchodi happening… If they wanted abhira as an endgame, then they could have just shown akshara going back to g house after knowing about her pregnancy and then refusing to be a part of b family as they are nothing but a bunch of flippers and then show akshu and aaru as strong single mothers balancing their personal and professional lives and then this story line can have multiple leads to go on… which can be stress relievers but no.no.no!!! We want the worst possible plot to satisfy a forcefully induced leap requirement. The above thing was just a possibility for the after leap story. There are ‘n’ number of them in my mind after watching this shit. And don’t even get me started on the ones which I can imagine without this shit leap and zabardasti ka pregnancy track. The previous generations showed so many things a married couple go through before getting to the pregnancy track. And those were just a handful. They could have shown so many daily life troubles a married couple can go through. I don’t know what everybody thinks but in my opinion abhira’s love story was rushed. And there wasn’t even one moment in all the episodes which I can relate to reality and I felt it was not so suitable for a fantasy. Especially akshu’s character is just so pointless. At first, she was a doormat, sacrificing everything. Then she just pretended to strong and independent but was still a doormat. Then, she was an immature who delusionally thinks that she can handle a child so wanted to become a mother. (Pehle tu khud badi hona, phir sochna maa banne ke baare mein!!!) Then she carelessly went after a child into the forest. (Well the child turned out to be more mature and careful then this idiot who wants to become a mother.) Then got into trouble and as a result her devar died. I don’t blame her totally. And at this point I felt bad for her as the b family blamed her and manyu divorced her in a fit of rage. Then when she finds out she was pregnant, she chose a stranger over her family! Like OMG! Who does that!!!! At this point, I felt Arohi was a sensible character putting aside her stupid insecurities. And evry time Arohi did a small mistake in the past, she was like “Sach ko kitna bhi chupalo, voh bahar aa hi jaata hain…. SACH!!! SACH!!! SACH!!!”. Then where did this “SACH” ka bhashan go when she gave birth to Abhir and had to fill the father’s column? According to me, she is no better than Manjiri. In fact, they are the same. They just play with people’s emotion and when confronted cry like idiots!!! God! So much stupidity!!!!!
Bakchodi 😂😂 nice way to sum up the current plot.
@Observer, lots of truth, lots of truth about Akshara and Manjiri 😂😂😂
@silent observer😂😂😂😂you rock!!!!!
@Sivk
Picking up the conversation we had yesterday.
When we are in nibba nibbi days, we find Surekha’s character, Aarohi’s character as villian.
As we grow we realise that Surekha, Aarohi are actually practical most of the time.
Yesterday i questioned Akshara’s choices (living with a stranger)as mother and Manjari’s choices (Asking Abhinav to step aside) as mother..
May or May Not their choices turn out to be practical when people think as parents.
Instead of discerning the argument by explaining your views, you questioned by morality of upbringing, by attacking personally,making the comment section toxic by hurting me. And my answer to your question is , you have no right to question my upbringing and i am not obliged to answer you about my morality.
I hope after reading this you come to your senses & won’t attack anyone hereafter personally.
Arya –
nav was a stranger when they met in bus.. she observed him for a few months and decided to marry him ..he was not someone’s husband nor did she ask a wife to leave her husband….
Contrary…manjiri knows what she is asking and how her ask would hurt aru / nav / akshu n the kids..
Only person to benefit was her pyara beta… so don’t compare a legitimate choice with manjiri… khoon ka rang gehra applies to her coz she conveniently overlooked the promise she n her son made to Neil’s widow.. coz yes..Neil wasn’t her khoon indeed
@Rak
I am not telling what Manjari asked Abhinav is right.
I mentioned when people grow as parent, they might or might not find it practical.
You say it is black, i say it is grey.
@Rak
When surekha spoke about financial status between muskan and kairav, all Goenkas were like what is she talking….but people do consider the financial difference before wedding.
Most people find abhira as cringe because it suits To Instagram nibba nibbi, not even little close to reality.
I like navra because it is close to Middleclass peoples mindset.
Likewise when people start thinking as a parent who has only knowledge that Navra are in marriage arrangement and not in love might feel it is practical get back together after seeing her son happy with his ex and son.
And moreover Manjari is conditioned to believe whatever decisions she takes is right for her son.
Yes the way she approached and disregarding Abhinav’s Aarohi’s & Roohi’s feelings is not defendable at all.
Arya –
I will agree that mothers are selfish n think of their kids.. but hurting others for so called practicality is plain wrong !..
If she really had to ASK .. she should have asked her son first coz she is the one who told him to stay away from navra and do not meddle in their life ( after knowing the arrangement )- or she should have asked akshu.. but no.. she knew nav was gullible n will walk away if guilt tripped….she Assumed that now that akshu n manyu are smiling n laughing…its best and perfect..
It’s not grey.. its black !.. period !
Simple! Abhinav is also a human and son, if Manjiri fights for her son’s happiness by breaking another’s happiness is consider a mother’s love for her son, so just bcoz Abhinav don’t have a mother to fight for him, he deserves such a treatment from a so called noble mother?? ABSURB! I never and will never ever apologise for this!!
@Arya, If you don’t want your feelings hurt, Switch off all your devices and throw them in the ocean or go make a safe zone chat group somewhere where all the snowflakes can congregate. The nature of the beast is such. It’s a whole internet with billions of people and thrice as many bots on and there is one itty bitty you. You’re asking billions of people to what conform to your standards? How entitled. It was one person and what they said was not bad, I saw that comment it was not an attack and here you are asking for the manager. 🙄
@Jade
I request you to see the comment again…@sivk questioned my morality of upbringing.
You hate Manjari because she disregards others feelings and act insensitive for her son’s happiness. Why don’t you say that it is nature of mother and every mother acts in their child’s best interests????
You are saying me that Internet is filled with this beast nature, and being itty bitty I have to accept that treatment others give me and should not question it because it is nature.
You are saying me i wanted people to confirm to my standards, but the irony is you are telling me to confirm to “nature” standard by not making big fuss and to accept the personal attack.
Keep your advice to yourself, if anyone insults you, consider yourself as itty bitty and let it go.
@Arya you are right not to accept personal attacks, you are right not to conform to the so called standards of “nature”. You have your own way of seeing things even if some will not agree. And it’s not normal to suffer personal attacks, just for giving your opinion.
@yeol
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If you are still defending a mother can do anything unethical for her son’s happiness out of a mother’s love as an excuse than I stand my point to question the morality of that person!
In a similar way how you keep defending Akshara saying that Abhinav is a life boat and she did right. That’s the most stupid thing anyone can do.she has her friend in pathankot, she could choose to be with her.But no this woman wanted choose to be with a stranger because he saved her 2 times. But that is the most stupid and risky thing anyone can do.
Just because Abhinav turned out to be good doesn’t justify her actions.
She choose to hide the fact about Abhir is Abhimanyu’s son to whole family for her whole life. The family won’t even know that unless that surgery track came up. Abhir will be living in lie.She choose to punish Abhimanyu because he threw her out. This woman instead of giving some space and telling him truth, she kept to herself.
There are many men in the society who doesn’t treat theirs wives equal but love their kids very much.
If you defend akshara’s choice is right by saying what she did is right, why do u say manjari asking Abhinav is wrong.
It has to either both of them wrong or both of them right.
@Jade 👏👏👏👏👏👏 and Thank you!
@Jade Itty or bitty doesn’t matter dude, attacking personally is a big NO NO!
@😎 I asked what kind of morality ur brought up with?
What is the exact meaning of morality?
1. a. : of or relating to the judgment of right and wrong in human behavior : ethical. b. : expressing or teaching an idea of right behavior.
Is this a personal attack? Is a question I was putting forth! @Arya
Would a moral person ask a husband to leave his wife for her own son’s happiness? If someone who said that it’s not wrong, then ofc I would question the morality of that person! PERIODT!
You first of all didn’t understand what I said.
I said both Akshara and Manjari are no less considering their choices.I never said that Manjari is right…..you misinterpret the comment.
2nd thing Just because someone have different opinion about a character which doesn’t align with your opinion, does not give you licence to question someone else’s morality. If you think you are entitled to question, I am sorry you are bullying them.
Arya –
Manjiri’s choice cannot be equated with akshu choice.. akshu was a divorcee who married a person after few months…
Manjiri is psycho who changed her stance of aru manyu ruhi to abhir abhi akshu in split second the moment she saw them laughing..
Akshu marriage is not wrong.. akshu is guilty of many things just like manyu is.. but not for her marriage with nav.. but manjiri is !
About personal attacks – u contradict yourself saying manjiri did is wrong n again defending her by saying it’s mother choice !.. sorry but no…as a mother u have choice to make for your kid.. but you don’t have right to ask someone else’s kid to leave his wife for sake of your kid…
If there is one matter where abhi fans akshu fans n nav fans are united.. its fact that manjiri is wrong…but here you are only one defending her choice !
Can you read again….I never mentioned she marrying abhinav is wrong.She choosing to hide the fact of Abhir’s father truth to whole family and Abhir under the words maa ka haq….. And Manjari choosing to ask abhinav to step out under the words maa ka haq…..
Both of them are wrong.
Yes , I have read it and you said just because abhinav turned out good doesn’t justify her actions.. you mentioned about abhir after this…
So according to you both her marraige with nav n hiding abhir truth are wrong !!
But understand that she was well within her rights to marry nav or anyone for that matter..
And hiding abhir truth was wrong – and nobody is defending her..even her bade papa scolded her.. but we are past that scene…that itself led to the situation now…
But manjiri asking a person to leave his wife for sake of her son when her son is already engaged to her so called pyara beta Neil’s widow is blatantly wrong and you cannot equate it to akshu choice…
You may as well compare akshu hiding abhir truth to manjiri hiding Neil truth ..that atleast makes some sense.. both are wrong there
I don’t wanna to go round n round with you! It’s absurb that you think a mother out of her love for her son can deprive another son of his happiness of a perfect family! Trying to take away someone happiness to make way for her son happiness is a moral thing to do, then I keep my stand!
I asked what kind of morality ur brought up with?
What is the exact meaning of morality?
1. a. : of or relating to the judgment of right and wrong in human behavior : ethical. b. : expressing or teaching an idea of right behavior.
Is this a personal attack? Is a question I was putting forth! @Arya
@Sivk it’s a question indeed
@Arya it is the same as somebody might be brought up thinking is not wrong to take thing without asking, but some may teach that it better to ask for permission before taking thing. It really depend on how you see the question? @Sivk is asking what you are taught on the subject of morality?
@Arya okay Karen, unfortunately there is no manager for you to whine at here but go off.
@😎 it was not a personal attack, it was a question and miss Karen decided to make this forum all about her for one little question that was not a big deal but she came out here acting as if the world owes her something. She should be on an entitled people Reddit post
Thank you @Jade @Harsh for both your understanding
@yeol @vandana
Birlas acted on very little information they had, which makes them unfair and injustice people. That is on them. Mahima said, Akshu took Neil to the concert and risked his life based on information given to her by the police. Police who arrived late. How accurate will these police be? Lets go with facts. Akshu gets Tanvi’s video call. Akshu and Neil see the goons kidnapping the girls. Akshu says they called me to take help, its about their lives, we have to go there. Neil says we are going to become parents, we can’t leave someone’s children like this, we will go(omitted relevant info) Akshu calls Manish and asks him to send police to the concert venue. He asks what happened. She says the kidnappers are taking the girls away. He asks her not to worry. Neil and Akshu see the goons. Neil says I will not let anything happen to those girls(omitted relevant info), you can’t go out, please. She asks him to be careful. He goes and asks the goons to stop. The kids ask Neil to save them (omitted relevant info). Neil fights the goons. Neil gets beaten up by the goons. Neil signs Akshu not to come. Akshu cries seeing him. The goon takes a knife to stab Neil. Akshu gets into driver’s seat and races the car. She knocks down the goons. She sees Neil injured. The car gets stuck. She gets down the car and runs to fight. He says go to the kids, please(omitted very relevant, important info). She says no, you are hurt. She gets the kids down the truck.Neil gets a hit on his head. Neil falls down(end).
Sounds to me Neil was filled with rescue spirit and he did what he did for his child, his bhabi, his bro, the girls, and for himself. But this relevant information was omitted despite the entire ordeal being about Neil himself.
Mahimas claims lacks any Neils involvement which becomes misleading and unjust. As i said, Birlas acted based on misleading, incomplete information. Until today, they dont know what really happened. Thats the fact.
Manyus actions was based on Akshus inability to listen to his prohibitions. In other words, his action was based on prior hatred and complains and this can be proved by Manyus words to Akshu when he sited all her past attempts to break through her cage(we agreed on this) and his control. It was never about Neil.
He blamed everything that ever happened to him on Akshu and after the divorce, he hid behind Neils death as an excuse. When you said Akshu made him react the way he did, you did not consider Manyus own feeble thought process, volatile nature to break relations easily, thirst for vengence, weak mental institution (he had history of depression), controling nature, weak emotional intelligence that made him act the way he did. If he had listened to Neils side of the story which he so generously revealed to him, when he also asked Akshu to take care of his child, things would have been different. But he did not and that is on him. For a long time Manyu and Manjiri found reasons to blame Akshu for all the actions they did then to now but the truth is Akshu contribution amounts to a quarter. Akshus mistake is to risk their lives and thats it. Manyus mistake is to offer divorce and ousting Akshu when she was emo, physical, psychologically vulnerable and so, he was a breath away from being unlucky and causing his sons death.
@vandana. Since we are talking of facts. Well proven facts. Its proved that Akshu getting on the bus, fainting, hearing all of Manish and Manyu calls, slapping Nav, taking Navs help, marrying him, giving him Abhirs rights and everything in between, saved Abhir. Not only that, it made Abhir a happy kid, smart, peacefull, considerate, matured, generous, bighearted as soon he will give a chance to Manyu, well behaved kid he is today. @shilajit will help me here. But truth is, the risk Akshu took, has proven time and time again that it was not only good but excellent. If you want to speculate, i can speculate. So lets go with proved theories. We are proud of Abhir are we not? How can we not be proud on the method that made him?
@mark you put out so much details !.. yes, ppl comparing again majiri choice to akshu choice are plain stupid.. akshu made a choice to marry someone whom she knew for few months and it turned out to be best decision for her..she DID NOT ask anyone’s husband to leave wife n marru her….in fact her choice of nav is better than marrying so called great lover whose abilities range from hanging upside down or barking or crying when not constipated…
Nav cries but that’s because he has a lot to loose plus he is insecure…and ppl like manjiri provoked and take advantage of thier goodness…like the audacity with which manjiri said nav will himself walk out.. i mean come on…. akshu n manyu are flawed in their own ways
At that moment of time Abhinav was literally a lifeboat to Akshara and she had to grab it!
@Mark, Manjiri and Aarohi come home. Shefali says Neil took Akshu to health center. Akshu receives the call from (the o.n.g). Niel says we should call the police, he calls the police and reassures Akshara. Then Akshu gets the video call from Tanvi Akshu and Neil sees the goons kidnapping the women, Akshara gets nervous and Niel tries to convince her not to do anything because of her health ( noted that Niel was not going to do anything apart inform the police). (but Akshara interrupted her and said she was fine). Akshara says, that they called me for help, it is their life we are going to become parents and blah blah, we should go there. Then Niel finally lets himself be convinced by his speech and says that we are going to become parents, we can’t leave someone’s children like this, we should go. Aarohi calls Neil. She asks how is Akshu. He says Akshu and toddlers are fine, we should visit live show area due to emergency. Aarohi asks what, and informs Manjiri. Niel had arrived on the scene with Akshara, he quietly watched the children being kidnapped, and Akshara wanted to get down and blocked the car door. Niel said no woman in your condition should take any chances, I won’t let anything happen to these girls, I’ll go. he begged Akshara to listen to him and not come down (noted he said she shouldn’t come down). Akshara didn’t once ask Niel not to come down, she told him to be careful. Niel is going to fight, he gets beaten up because there were too many of them, and Akshara wanted to go down (noted she didn’t want to listen). Niel made a sign to him not to come down even though he was beaten up. one of the guys wanted to stab Niel and Akshara drove the car towards him. One of the guys wanted to kill Niel with a stone and Akshara intervened. Niel told Akshara to take care of the children, while the criminals were temporarily busy and injured. Niel couldn’t speak anymore, he couldn’t see well, nor fight, and the criminals came back Niel was hit in the head, then he fell he couldn’t do anything for the children and Akshara. At that moment the Akshara miraculously remembered that she was pregnant, and that they were dangerous criminals she had to deal with, and she started begging them for her babies. And at this precise moment the police intervened. Now tell me if you still don’t see anything.
@Mark, then this situation arises.Niel asked Abhimanyu to take care of his baby like he took care of him, and asked Akshara to take care of his baby. The divorce is not a reson for Akshara keeping her promise to Niel or not, but with Arohi’s reactions it was a waste of time. Aarohi is broken. She slaps Abhi for not saving Neil, then stabs Abhimanyu’s heart again, when he had just witnessed his brother’s death. then Aarohi blames Akshara for Neil’s death. Manjiri scolds and blames Abhi for not saving his brother further adds to his mental load. Arohi asks Akshara why she took Neil to the concert, which prompted Manjiri’s reaction and that’s how Manjiri started blaming Akshara. Abhi asks Suvarna to take Akshara away from Neil but Akshu refuses to go. Manjiri blames Akshara. Everyone is shocked and devastated. then Akshara came to mourn her soul without respecting Birla’s suffering and Manjiri says one of your wrong decisions ended three lives. and she refuses to let Akshara touch Niel’s body and Arohi takes a stand and launches the subject Sirat she said you took my mother from me then you took my husband from me. Then Anand and Mahima ask Akshara to go to her room so as not to cause more pain to Manjiri and Arohi their accusing gaze ended up forcing her to go to the room. Then Manjiri got out of control and Akshara ran out of the room but the sight of Akshara amplified his anger and crisis. Arohi had stated that Akshara wanted to go to the concert, and she received the blame that if she had stayed at home nothing would have happened. But Mahima seemed informed by the police about the situation as she stated that if Akshara had not wanted to mingle with the criminal and had waited for the police nothing would have happened. In the end the blame that Mahima cast was the truth. you talk about control but until the accident all of Akshara’s actions led to problems he wanted assurance that she wasn’t going to act recklessly. Abhimanyu told Akshara that he knew she went out with Niel because of her cramps but asked her why didn’t she come home after her exam. But he asked Akshara if she had gone mad, from wanting to get involved with criminals, if she hadn’t thought of another way to help her daughters without risking the lives of her daughters and that of her brother. He reproached Akshara for never thinking before acting, and never heeding warnings. he reproached her for always doing what she wanted, without ever taking others into account, apart from his desires(and it’s true) he told her that it was her habit (and it’s true) before acting even if Akshara is warned by others, she only listens to her own wishes). he got angry and said why she never listened to him, why after all that happened she never listened to his advice. Well Akshara said not to shout at him as his mental state was fragile, but Abhimanyu’s mental state was already totally ravaged. Pui Abhimanyu quoted Sirat and Akshara was shocked, Abhimanyu repeats Arohi’s words and accuses her, then he says he feels like a failure for not being able to take care of his family. He spots the divorce papers and says crying and angry your presence reminds me of your mistake and that they weren’t meant to be together that’s why their relationship fails again and again. Abhimanyu words broke Akshara and Akshara’s actions broke Abhimanyu. He was fully aware of the situation. Akshara signed the divorce papers and left her mangal sutra. (Cage) was the limits for Akshara to stop the dangerous actions, (Bad luck) was the fact that Akshara didn’t think much in a dangerous situation, and (end) was the risk Akshara wanted to take. The Birlas know exactly what happened.
Mahima said verbatim that if Akshara hadn’t wanted to get involved with the goons nothing would have happened. Mahima didn’t add anything more. It was Arohi who said that Akshara took Niel to the concert. All of Akshara’s decisions, unfortunately stealing other people’s time, her decisions have caused concern to her loved ones, and depression. The fact that Akshara continued to roam the streets instead of returning to her friend’s place in safety after learning that she was still carrying a baby was reckless and dangerous. She more than anyone with this action has risked the life of her child. And you wonder why some imposed security limits on him, Akshara has always been an unconscious person. By some miracle she came across someone good like Abhinav, but the (maybe if she hadn’t met Abhinav but someone less good will still exist). It is Akshara who is lucky to have met someone good, it was not for her, I see it as a divine act to save this child from her unconscious mother, because the baby was innocent. But if I should be asked if her decisions to give Abhir’s parental rights to Abhinav was good, to chain Abhinav into a relationship for her son as she knew that man was too good to refuse. I would say no because she abused Abhinav’s kindness. Because she did not think about the future consequence for the future. And today it is Abhir who will undergo all the decisions of his mother, he risks having a life divided overnight, he risks having to make a choice at the risk of hurting someone he loves. Abhinav may also suffer from all this situation, and so does Abhimanyu.
@yeol
Akshara asks one question – ” would abhi divorce Neil if she died that day in place of him?” – his silence speaks volume ane we all know that Neil wouldn’t have been thrown out or divorced.. yes..ppl would have been angry on him but he wouldn’t be out of the house…
Manyu was angry and was against akshu n signed divorce papers n threw Akshara out of the house coz he felt that’s the best choice at the time and he had every right to…
Akshu chose to marry nav after few months coz she felt its best for her n abhir…
Past dwelling will only bring mistakes of both abhi n akshu… none are better than other and none is in clear…but in present…manjiri is fully wrong in asking nav to leave akshu n manyu though he is against her idea and is angry with her..he is unable to control or stop his mother..oh yes..coz he cannot divorce mother , simple !
@Rak, I also have a question. Akshara always defends and forgives his brother and sister, if Abhimanyu had caused the death of one of them what do you think Akshara would have done? I believe you know the answer. Akshara cannot control her siblings when they are wrong, even though she talks to them and tries to talk them out of it, they decide on their own when they want to stop. Abhimanyu wanted to make his mother listen to reason as he knows that Manjiri is wrong, but since he was always unable to control Akshara’s stupid actions, he was never able to control Manjiri either. As Akshara was never able to control her family.
@yeol-
I said very clearly akshu n abhi both did mistakes….but you chose to ignore manyu and highlight only akshara’s
BOTH are responsible for today’s consequences- its a direct result of their mistakes – akshara carelessness n manyu impulsiveness..whether u agree or not..none of them are in clear..
And to your point-if manyu caused death of her siblings – akshara will be angry with manyu , yes – but would she be so insensitive in throwing a patient who just had a miscarriage despite being a doctor ?.. I dont think so…cause akshara’s character trait has always been about sacrificing/ mahaanta …so I don’t think she would throw a patient out of house .. divorce yes..but may not be at that exact moment like manyu did…
Anyway.. this discussion is redundant coz … all of us know both abhi n akshu made mistakes
@Rak
I agree completely. Both are in the wrong. Akshu is careless and Manyu impulsive. But who doesnt do wrong? @yeol should not excuse Manyus behaviour by putting it on Akshu. And if we go with proven facts, manyu confirmed then at the temple, that he would not have divorced Neil. It is proven that Akshu is sacrificial and mahanta, so she would have taken care of Manyu and when he is strong to handle his own shit, she would have divorced.
The police came after Neil and Akshara was already outside of the car, how the police can described that it’s was Akshara that caused Neil’s death?? Just bcoz Akshara was alive she must be the one to be blamed?? I just don’t get it who actually saw what actually happened?
@yeol
My recall of events is copied and pasted from written updates. Written updates is accurate to some degree as it only jots down spoken words and not actions like “Akshu opened the car door to go out, when they arrived at the concert.” Lots of events you mentioned seem stretched and altered. But that doesnt matter. What matters is, Neil did what he did for his child, his bhabi, his bro, the girls, and for himself. These reasons took his life. Dont single out “his bhabi”. But this relevant information was omitted despite the entire ordeal being about Neil himself. When Neil asked Akshu to take care of his child, he meant he never blamed her because he knows what drove him to do what he did. He is a grown ass man and knows he did want to help those girls. Birlas had no right to overlook Neils opinions. If they had any complains they should have taken it up with him wherever he maybe.
As i said, Akshu contributed a quarter of Manyus anger. The rest, he managed to collect else where. This shouldnt be on Akshu now, should it? Manyus nature(who he is), contributed greatly. Followed by his habit of getting riled up easly by the likes of Aru and Manjiri. We saw it then, we see it now. This shouldnt be on Akshu now, should it?
You prove Akshu to “Akshara continued to roam the streets instead of returning to her friend’s place in safety after learning that she was still carrying a baby was reckless and dangerous.”. You see @yeol, i try to meet you halfway because i want you to convince me but you dont repay the same with me. Listen the following carefull as it explains the same. When i said Manyu escaped from being unlucky by a breath of air to cause his sons death(akshus suicide), i meant this. I also said Akshu was in a psychological and emo trauma meaning she didnt care and she had a valid reason. The reason is she lost her fighting spirit. Her will to live had vanished. God knows she may be thinking that she is trouble and the kid she is carrying, since its hers will also be trouble and cause unhappiness. You see, Akshu was not thinking of being carefull because she might have thought whats the use? Whats the point? Better she dies with her kid so that people will not complain about her or her other version of her which is her kid. If she would have cared about “reckless and dangerous” we could say she still has a will to fight for life and hold on to it despite the cards its dealt her and i would never mention about psychological trauma. But since i keep mentioning it, i must have a reason to.
As i said, after the divorce, Manyu hid behind Neils death and blamed everything wrong with his brain, on Akshu. But i ask again, who the hell doesnt do any mistake? They are lucky that their mistakes didnt take ones life so they should not condemn the one that her mistake did because afterall, was Neil going to live forever? They shouldnt take this chance where Akshu screwed up, to raise up their complains and hatred because they are not safe either from being in Akshus shoes and causing death to someone. But even if they do, no one lives forever. If its a mistake and one is sorry for it like how Akshu was mumbling “sorry Neil”, this should sooth them even a little because as i said, Neil was not going to live forever.
PS: Was buzy, could have replied sooner.
@Mark, We’re just repeating ourselves, everyone keep their point of view. What Abhimanyu said to Akshara that day every word was true, he didn’t blame her for what was wrong with him he said the truth except for Sirat. The updates are not totally correct here and even the episodes speak for themselves. I didn’t stretch any facts or words (Akshara wanted to come down when they arrived and it’s true). @Mark for you everything will start with Abhimanyu and end up blaming Abhimanyu, even if you have to minimize the truth saying that no one lives forever, memories and loss are eternal. No need to cheer up death. You will continue in each of your comments to quote the emotional and psychological state of Akshara, but never that of Abhimanyu. After the divorce, of course, he all rallied Akshara to the death of Niel, because it is the most vivid memory of his life, the death of his brother, and it’s a justifiable and real cause of suffering, but you won’t be able to admit it. Akshara condemns Abhimanyu for his mistakes in many ways, but for him to condemn her for a serious mistake you find that unfair, when Abhimanyu’s mistakes will kill someone they won’t be shy about condemning him and blaming him, he is already blamed and condemned for the actions of others. She was sorry because Niel died, not for his mistakes as she said herself (what are my mistakes). You try so hard to prove that Abhimanyu’s pain and loss was ultimately nothing, and that he was making excuses to put it all on Akshara, but what Abhimanyu said that day was totally true. If I look at Akshara’s side her pain is understandable, but I can’t forget that from the very beginning she is the one who always causes drama with her actions. If you want I give you reason and we stop the debate we repeat ourselves tirelessly and yet our opinions do not change.
“You will continue in each of your comments to quote the emotional and psychological state of Akshara, but never that of Abhimanyu”
Vice versa, you too! Isn’t it?
@yeol
Is this not me saying Manyu was angry and Akshu contributed it? “Akshu contributed a quarter of Manyus anger. The rest, he managed to collect else where. This shouldnt be on Akshu now, should it? Manyus nature(who he is), contributed greatly. Followed by his habit of getting riled up easly by the likes of Aru and Manjiri. We saw it then, we see it now. This shouldnt be on Akshu now, should it?”
@Yeol why don’t you ever comment when asked if your wonderbreadManyu’s actions towards Ruhi are correct? Is using a child as an emotional crutch correct? Is making promises you KNOW you can’t keep both before and after knowing Abhir’s paternity right? Arohi gave him an out all he had to do was hold his mothers dupatta and sit pretty while Aru left with Ruhi but he stopped them. PromiseManyu can never keep any promises, I was never a fan of either Akshara or Manyu or their cursed pairing but I am all for what is best for the kids, in Abhir’s case it’s co parenting in Ruhi’s it’s knowing the truth that Manyu doesn’t want to be her papa and made an empty promise, yes it will affect her ability to trust men in her adult life but the damage won’t be as great if he cuts the chords now instead of feeding false hopes. Aru doesn’t need Manyu, no one does except his mommy dearest. Aru and Ruhi need each other, NavRa and Abhir need each other. Abhi’s destiny is to sit at his mother’s feet like a loyal puppy
Abhir loves abhinav only and what will happen if he finds out his docman is his real dad after custody how will makers frwd show then what will be storyline
Please don’t make another leap 😂🤔🤔it started when I’m in 10th now I’m married my son turns into two in few months it will still air till he completes his school I think 😆😆
It will have to result in a co parenting situation with Akshu having primary custody and Manyu having Abhir for holidays and maybe going to Kasauli now and then and spending time with Abhir. Unfortunately it’s going to take Abhir going through emotional turmoil for Akshu and Manyu to see that Abhinav is right, Abhira might have created Abhir but the person who values and loves him the most is Abhinav. I think NavRavMan will have to stand up to the old people and say they are Abhir’s parents and they will decide what is the best course for him.
So @yeol according to your version good to know Akshra was not at fault for Neil’s death.It was just Birlas and Arohi who needed someone to blame instigated by Mahima and Stupid Manyu acted on it.Had there been someone else in Akshara place it would still result in Niel death unfortunately.He died trying to be good and trying to save some other parents girls
pple keep on saying that akshu and abhi have to have a confrontation abt whiteday, but to be honest akshu’s POV regarding that day has been made evident, her one statement.is enough pique anyones interest as she asked manyu ‘what if i had died instead of neil’ , ladies and gents i am not defending any char but this statement is ladden with guilt, sorrow, regret., for the first time after the temple confession i could truly relate with.akshu😢….manyu had a chance to talk it out with her thre and then yet he kept mum, wy could he not answer? guess he knew that both of them were wrong but had no courage to face his inner demons
Then again ihave read plenty comms saying the two should talk abt.whiteday. my question is what for? to re open old wounds that have began to heal? or are these abhira stans who think an apology will fix everything and probably lead to an abhira re union😂😂😂, sorry to say folks that train has left the station and dwelling in the past will do no good for all char involved, i think thats the whole point makers are trying to hammer along
@catnap
I agree. No one should apologize shit. They were honest then and so we should move on with everything that was said and done.
@catnap @Mark
It is going to be difficult for Akshara to apologise for the events if that day. Akshara doesn’t see any wrong done only seeing her mistake made. So not much can happen on this issue. Abhimanyu might make adjustments where he can slowly get closer to Akshara’s position. With Akshara receiving full support from her family that day looks a lot more further away.
I agree with you that the makers aren’t immediately pursuing a reunion but this custody doesn’t close the doors of Abhira interactions as they will still interact over Abhir. However Akshara’s preference is clearly known to the audience.
EXACTLY! @catnap 👏👏👏
Okay, so I can see many are debating over the series of events that occurred on that day, so let me put a light over it.
1. Abhimanyu leaves to Jaipur for an important surgery taking promise from Akshara not to step out of their room till he comes back home as he gets restless and feels like something bad was about to happen. He didn’t want to go to Jaipur in first place, but he was left with no option as the patient was his old one on whom he performed surgery once and had to perform again due to some complications.
2. Akshara gets severe stomach ache due to cramps and except Shefali with Shivu there was no one at home as Mahima and Abhimanyu were in Jaipur, Anand, Harsh and Neil were in hospital, Manjiri and Aarohi went to temple, Parth went somewhere and Nishtha was in college. Shefali called Akshara’s Gynac to request her to come to check Akshu but the Gynac was busy in some other surgery and couldn’t come. At the very moment, Neil came to house and was going to his room when he heard Akshara’s cries.
3. He went to her and got to know the condition and insisted that Akshara should be taken to other hospital as there was a traffic jam infront of Birla hospital and takes her to City hospital. Shefali was about to accompany but at that very moment Shivu starts crying so Neil and Akshu asked Shefali to stay at home and take care of Shivu.
4. The doctor at City hospital checks her and tells that the babies are fine and cramps are normal in pregnancy and that she should take utmost care of herself due to complications and should not take any stress. When they were returning back home, Akshu gets call from NGO girls crying for help and then Neil says we can’t do anything ourselves and must inform police. Neil calls the police and Akshu also calls Manish, updates him about situation and requests him to talk to senior officer to get immediate help and he agrees.
5. In the meantime, she gets video call from one of the NGO girls where they see the traffickers loading the girls into truck forcefully. Akshara gets panicked and tells that “We should save those girls anyhow. I myself was about to be there with those girls, I can’t let anything happen to them”. That’s when Neil tells police will take 30 min to reach but we can’t do anything against them ourselves. Then Akshu said, “I should save them at any cost, you tell me what would you do if you were in my place”. That’s when Neil said that they’re also becoming parents and they can’t let someone else children get into trouble and that we should try to save them. Mind it, by saving means he never meant getting down and fighting with them. After this, Neil got Aarohi’s call and she enquired about Akshara and babies. Neil said, “Both bhabhi and babies are fine, we are going to concert location for an emergency” and Aarohi informed the same to Manjiri and Shefali.
6. Akshu and Neil reached the place and see that traffickers are still loading girls into truck. Neil was observing the scenario but Akshara opened the door and was ready to jump out, that’s when Neil locked the doors and took promise from Akshu not to step out of car by saying some Lakshman and Lakshman Rekha dialogues. In that moment, if Akshu was not eager to jump out Neil would have never went out because he was busy analyzing the scenario and making a backup plan.
7. Neil went down and started fighting, 2 goons held him and 3 were beating him, when one goon was about to hit on his head from back, Akshu pressed the horn and alerted Neil. After Neil was beaten black and blue, one goon was about to stab him when Akshu dashed that goon with car and then got down the car. Neil asked her to take out those girls out of truck because he know he’ll die. The moment he started getting beaten, he know he won’t survive so his main aim was to save girls and Akshara.
8. When Akshara was helping the girls, one goon came towards her with a wooden log pointing right at her tummy, that’s when madam realized she’s pregnant and started chanting my babies, my babies, please don’t do anything. That’s when police came, shot that goon and arrested rest of them. So, technically it was police who saved all of them.
9. After that Akshaar took Neil to Birla hospital but the doctors couldn’t operate on him as his BP was dropping continuously and it’s not safe to operate in such conditions. In the mean time, Abhimanyu completes his surgery successfully in Jaipur with the restlessness still lingering on him and comes home. He enquires about Akshara and was about to go to room to see her but Aarohi informs him also the same thing what Neil told her. When Shefali was about to tell him about cramps, he gets call from Manish and he coms to know about Neil’s state.
10. In hospital, police tells Anand, Harsh, Manish and Suwarna what exactly happened and Harsh comments that they should have waited for police. Meanwhile Akshu realizes she’s bleeding from her stomach and goes to her Gynac where she declares Akshu underwent miscarriage due to stress and the babies are no more. After this, Abhimanyu and Mahima come to hospital and try to revive Neil but fails.
11. Abhimanyu comes to know what happened at concert location and searched for Akshu in hospital, he finally finds her where she tells him about her miscarriage. Meanwhile, Harsh comes and tells Abhimanyu that Neil’s pulse is dropping rapidly and Abhimanyu rushes to Neil. He tries hard and finally gets successful in reviving Neil. Neil in his death bed requests Abhimanyu to take care of his child if something happens to him and promise him that he won’t let his child feel void of father and Abhimanyu promises him. He asks the same promise from Akshara, but before she could promise he passes away.
12. Neil’s dead body is brought home and Manjiri and Aarohi starts crying falling on floor. Manjiri slaps Abhimanyu for not saving Neil after having emotional breakdown. Then, Aarohi comments that Akshara is the reason for Neil’s death and that he would be fine if Akshu didn’t take Neil to that concert location. After that, Manjiri blames Akshara for taking her son which led to his death. Then, Manish intervenes and says that to Manjiri “If you lost your son, then even my Akshu lost her both babies” which I found it as most illogical comparison as the pain caused due to death of young son can never be equal to that of death of an embryo. Manjiri again blames Akshu that because of her 3 lives are dead.
13. During funeral, Abhimanyu helps Akshara when she was unable to lift water glass and makers her drink water and asks her to go to room and rest. He then asks Suwarna to take Akshara to room as she needs rest but Akshu refuses and attends funeral. When she went to pay homage, Manjiri prohibited her and asked her to leave and Aarohi followed her brining Sirat topic too and asked to to do whatever she wants but leave from there. When Akshara retaliated, Manjiri pushed her away and continued her blaming session, that’s when Anand and Mahima requested her to go to room as it’s getting difficult to handle Manjiri and Aarohi and she leaves.
14. After taking away the body, Aarohi sits crying infront of Neil’s picture and Manjiri continued her blaming session against Akshara and gets a panic attack or something. When Mahima was about to give injection, Akshara comes down and calls Manjiri after which Manjiri again blames her for all the deaths and Akshu finally leaves when Harsh and Mahima beg her to go to her room and she again goes away. Manjiri then says that Aarohi was always correct when she said Akshara snatched everything from her. Mahima joined her and says that they indeed lost many things due to Akshara. The Birlas take care of Manjiri and Aarohi and Shefali asks Abhimanyu to go to Akshara.
15. After Abhimanyu comes into room, he confronts Akshara for her stupid move and questions her why didn’t she come back home when she was ill and let police handle the situation. That’s when Akshu said “What’s my mistake” And Abhimanyu lost it and lashed out on her brining out all issues from starting. BTW, that was the only day I agree with Abhimanyu’s words as his all points were logical and correct except Sirat thing and divorce. He signed on divorce papers and asked her to leave and she left signing them.
16. Manish and Suwarna come to Birla house to take Akshu to their house and Abhimanyu informs them Akshara already left and that they are divorced, he never said what all happened in room and he was the one who signed the papers first. Meanwhile, Manjiri falls ill and gets admitted in hospital. Akshara boards some bus after sending voice message to Manish about leaving to Udaipur and that’s where she met Abhinav.
17. Abhinav took Akshara to hospital after she fainted and that’s when Akshara got to know one of her babies is alive. She calls Abhimanyu to inform him but he didn’t pick the call as he was with Manjiri that time as she got some attack again. He calls her back and lashes out on her for calling him and doesn’t listen what she wants to say. Abhinav then takes Akshara to girls hostel but warden throws her out when she finds out Akshara is pregnant. Abhinav saves Akshu from police when she gets arrested on fake prostitution charges.
18. Next day, Manish meets Akshu’s friend and she informs that Akshu will come soon and Abhinav dropped Akshu to her friend’s house where she hears Manish telling Akshara should not have gone to that spot with Neil and she decides not to meet Manish. Abhinav takes Akshara to some cafe for dinner and insists her to go back to er family but she refuses. She meets her friend there and asks her to tell Manish that she’s happy here and don’t want to go back as she needs a change. She didn’t inform her pregnancy neither to Manish nor to her friend and Manish returns Udaipur after that.
19. Next day, Akshu again gets stomach pain and doctor asks her to take rest and be very careful, Abhinav again asked her to call her husband and Akshu calls Abhimanyu, That’s when discussion about Aarohi’s future is going on and he didn’t lift the call again. After the discussion is over, he called back but Abhinav lifted the call as Akshu was not around and tried to inform about baby but Abhimanyu again didn’t listen, instead continuously asked him to give phone to Akshu. When Abhinav started to talk about baby, Abhimanyu blasted again and said “I have nothing to do with Akshara even if she was mother of my kids”, here Abhinav was referring about one alive child and Abhimanyu was referring about his dead twins. Akshara heard the convo and decided never to go back. So, basically it was just 4 calls done, 2 from Akshara’s side and 2 from Abhimanyu’s side when he didn’t life the previous call.
20. Abhinav insisted Akshara to stay with him and requested his landlord than roaming on roads when she sternly said she don’t want to go back and 7 months passed on. There was no contact between Akshara and Abhimanyu in these 7 months but Akshara kept messaging her family about her condition but neevr informed her pregnancy. After 7 months, Akshu went into premature labor and Abhimanyu organized Manjiri’s birthday that’s when Manish gets Akshara’s call and everyone hears Akshara’s words when she said she got married, that is right after Abhir’s birth.
This is what happened and Abhimanyu and Birlas not knowing anything when they were venting out is wrong, because police already informed everything to Anand and Harsh and all family members already came to know, Their compliant was never why Akshara thought of saving those girls but always why did she go there and risk herself, Neil and her babies when police were already on their duty.
Now, lets come to mistakes of these 2,
1. Akshara had many number of ways to save those girls, I would not wish to write all those here again as I mentioned them many times but she chose to risk herself, her BIL and her babies. Akshara insisted to save girls anyhow and Neil drove her there, Akshara was about to jump out, Neil locked the door and came out. Neil’s actions were the reactions of Akshara’s doings. That’s why I always said Akshara was PARTIALLY responsible for Neil’s death.
2. Aarohi blamed Akshara according to the situation, she was grieving pregnant widow that time and lashed out on Akshu but she did that just twice and didn’t touch or pushed away Akshara, it was manjiri who did all those. At that moment, I can even understand Manjiri’s pain. All Akshara should do was giving some space, but she refused to give that like how her mother Naira gave to Suwarna and Kartik when Shubham died and understood their POV too.
3. Akshara didn’t want to accept she was indeed wrong to go there risking everything which pissed me off, and even today she still thinks she didn’t do any wrong and she has no survivor guilt which is something hard to digest. She wandering on roads penniless in critical pregnancy and relying on stranger is one more stupidity. She’s just lucky that Abhinav turned out to be good man.
4. Abhimanyu as a doctor, husband and human should have got Akshara checked after miscarriage, waited till she recovered and then put all his points and divorce papers infront of her. But, he ignored her health and mental state. Though Akshara’s dumb actions caused Neil’s death, she didn’t deserve that treatment.
5. Abhimanyu should have once listened when Akshara called him and brought the baby topic. i understand he is also suffering, but he should have once paid attention or atleast ask her to call back later as he was busy with his mother but he lashed out again and cut the call. After Manish said Akshara don’t want to return, he didn’t try to call her and enquire what she was saying about baby.
6. When he called back Akshara last time, Abhinav lifted the call but for Abhimanyu he was a stranger that time. As a ex-husband, lover, human, or atleast as an acquittance he should have got worried when a stranger picked Akshara’s phone that too a man. He asked Abhinav to give phone to Akshara but again lashed out without hearing when Abhinav started telling about baby and cut the call. After 7 months, he got to know Akshara married again, but in these 7 months, not even once he tried to connect with Akshara and enquire what she wanted to speak about baby.
P.S: All this rant is about the situations happened before leap and my analysis is also done keeping in mind the character sketch of Abhimanyu and Akshara before leap.
Siya-
Indeed all your points are sensible.
Both abhi n akshu have fair share of mistakes..and add in share of bad luck like wrong diagnosis at Birla hospital and communicating over phone call about baby to abhi..which I feel she could have done with her goenka clan as well..coz she knew her family would search for her…
So yes- both have made mistakes n the consequences today of custody case are due to that …
But abhir n abhinav do not deserve this heartbreak coz they were not responsible for abhira mistake
@Siya, very good analysis and explanations of the facts, your own point of view and also relevant and your opinion and totally objective and justifiable.
@siya your memory is mind blowing . Imean you know each and every part😉
You have a mind blowing memory. And you made valid points too based on facts and not on perceptions.
If a husband divorce his wife, the wife would normally question and reason about the divorce, Akshara signed the divorce paper, gave back the ring, and the marriage necklace(Sorry I dun know what is that called, it was put on during wedding ritual) without a question! Isn’t it enough to show that she knew her husband divorce her for that mistake?
@sivk The marriage necklace is called as “mangal sutra” in hindi 🙃
Oh Thank you for the info @Mia
@sivk
Who is saying Akshu didnt know reason for the divorce?
@Siya
Thankyou for taking the time. Its true both have a share in what happened 6yrs ago and even this custody battle is a product of their mistakes, both of them. We audience and characters shouldnt discuss how we got here really as its a never ending discussion and no one will win but we should look at their actions now. Whoever brings up the past, should be ignored hence forth because they are not team players.
@Mark agree!
@Siya 👏👏👏 Akshu was deffo partially responsible for Neil’s end… my issue is why Manyu has prepared divorce papers kept around 🙈 Akshu not giving the Birla’s time to mourn was her biggest mistake she should have stayed in her room, when she was crying and continually saying Neil’s name I wanted to smack her. But in 6 years she has matured quite a bit, all the Goenka’s have and it’s probably due to the new writer or we’d have a story which is a duplicate of KaiRa and Kairav but a more cringey version.
All three versions @ mark @ yeol @ siya are essentially same but interpreted differently.Akshra s action were stupid but not deliberate but Abhimanyu s were deliberate as many days had passed between Neels death and the phone calls.Even the most hot tempered man cools down in a day or two.Abhinav is Akshras and Abhirs destiny and he proved himself trustworthy in those 7 months.When Akshara gave him right of father he was no longer a stranger but someone who had cared for her more than even Goenkas,(who leaves their emotionally broken daughter with friend ?????)
@Rr, many days and months have passed, but the Birla house was still not calm, with Manjiri’s repeated crises, and Arohi’s pregnancy which was not too sure at the time. every day, Abhimanyu was in an environment that did not give his mind a chance to calm down, he constantly remembered the loss of Niel, and the consequences of the drama. The Goenka’s left Akshara at her friend’s house so as not to confront her with the critic, and the consequences of her choices so that she could be in a better environment. Goenka also had Arohi who was more important because her husband had just died, and she was pregnant (because they didn’t know about Akshara’s pregnancy) and she wasn’t sure she wanted to raise, her child as a single mother. Arohi was still too upset over Niel’s death.
@Rr.
Well said. This topic is likely though going to reverberate until the end of Gen 3. I don’t think that Akshara and Abhimanyu will ever be the same. That experience etched a lot of pain on the psyche of both and returning to the events of that day will keep bringing pain for both of them. Abhimanyu has changed a lot and this made it possible to have an understanding on Abhir. Akshara has changed a lot as well she has another relationship but she is able to forgive Abhimanyu because her husband wants peace. So a nudge from Abhinav changed her position which made her give up her resentment and at the same time realise her love for Abhinav.
I agree with you that Abhinav has become her destiny. The way it happened was risky but he proved trustworthy, loyal, dedicated and reliable. She had been watching him from the first day they met. She saw him save Abhir’s life when he was born an act repeated by Abhimanyu with the surgery but she clearly knows where she stands. From the days of despair and sadness Abhinav’s care and support eventually turned into love and friendship bringing her a lot of happiness.
@Yeol, hats off to you for even bothering to correct the partisan interpretations. I saw the story very much as you describe. And, who gets over the death of much loved sibling in a week, the pain of a miscarriage and dreams of a future. Abhimanyu at that point felt Akshara had a case to answer and he felt guilty for bringing her into the life of his family. Fair enough. Many of us would feel the same. At the time I thought, Abhimanyu’s divorce act was a bit extreme, but also that Akshara was not innocent. In fact I thought she broke when he told her he believed Arohi now when she says Akshara was responsible for Sirat’s death.
@Rr. Yeah. 7 months lets say it was not enough for birlas to calm down. Yeah during that time abhi had to go through a tough time taking care of manjiri and arohi. But akshara was the person he loved. If he truly loved her even for a day then he would have search for akshara at least to know about her health. But no.. he didn’t try that and let anger towards akshara rule over his love towards akshara. Both abhi n akshara had to suffer and still they are bcz of their mistakes.
@Meed. So true. All these events made akshara reach her destination at kasuali with abhinav. And eventually abhi will reach his.. For those past yrs it was a confusion on Akshara’s feelings towards abhinav. She was in love with abhinav but she didn’t realise it bcz her mind was fully taken with the thought of abhi will snatch abhir. But the moment she felt relaxed keeping all tension aside, she realised her love i think that was the day they came back kasuali after surgeory n abhinv n akshara were alone.
@Zara.
My very same thoughts here. She has reached her destination and it becomes clearer to all except Manjiri who got her deserved rude awakening by hearing it from Akshara.
I agree with you that the night of their return is a landmark in so many ways some of which are still hidden. She now clearly loves Abhinav and is happy with him. Yet this journey isn’t over and a lot could yet happen. But their faith in each other is likely to keep going strong.
@Rr second to that! and yes, Abhinav was no longer a stranger after going thru with him in 7 months!
@Rr @Meed @Yeol @Rai
I agree with you. Six years ago, no one is innocent or a victim. They created the situation then and the aftermath is still experienced now. The custody is a result of both of their actions so we got to look in the now and future, if at all they are reformed or are still their old selves.
We need to see going forward if Akshu thinks at all or apologizes at all. We need to look if Manyu is….. well if he is the Manyu.
But if one makes remarks like “Manyu bond with his son is weak due to Akshara,” they should not forget to add Manyus name.
@Mark.
You have nailed it here.
I see Akshara happy in her present life and she will stick with this fulfilling life than be be a property of Manjiri. Abhimanyu is likely to face a tough time as he realises that he was forcing the issue all along except for the rest of that month that he stayed at Kasauli. Abhir’s feelings will emerge and he will be heartbroken to see that his own son loves his friend a lot. These tests will be hard to bear but he must brace himself for what lie ahead. Also Abhinav and Akshara will face a testing time without Abhir they will all be unhappy and that is because of this custody case.
I agree that the issues and what lies ahead are more important now.
@Mark, yes, look forward and only look backwards if they help explain the present.
But now that’s not the point the point is abhir’s happiness. You are talking about the past which was completed 6 yrs on screen and around 6 months in reality. I know abhi and akshu both had mistaken but now there’s no logic to bring the past back and talk about who was the culprit and who was the victim. Come on grow up and think about the two fathers who saved their son’s life
@Mia, I completely agree with you. But Abhimanyu’s past is often used against him whenever he makes a small mistake to call him a manipulator or a monster. Because of Abhimanyu’s past some see him as solely responsible for the events that happened in Abhira’s time. Abhimanyu and Akshara are responsible but for some Abhimanyu will always be the culprit because Akshara has no bad intention, but can good intentions erase the bad that has been done? it is true that both fathers are doing their best even though Abhimanyu will certainly never have the place that Abhinav has in Abhir’s life.
@yeol i agree specifically with the last line
“but can good intentions erase the bad that has been done?”…
Bad intention? Since when? And Who has bad intention? Define”intention”
EXACTLY EXACTLY! @Mia
@sivk 🙃🙂
@Mia , well said👏
@catnap 😉
Not a word has escaped about Abhimanyu being Abhir’s real father from anyone so far. Only words from a panicking Abhinav not being the real father were over heard by Abhir and his childhood innocence evaporated. Today we witness the insecurity that has set into Abhir’s mind. Dissolving with tears into Abhinav, imploring him to never leave him, Abhir promises to be the best beta never giving any trouble. He takes the blame onto his little shoulders, apologising to Abhinav for not revealing sooner that he knew Abhinav was aware he was not his real father. Sad really to see the sorrow and confusion adult secrets and assumptions create in children. Abhir’s emotional angst: the fear of abandonment and insecurity in Abhinav’s love has started. Akshara looks on, emotional, relieved perhaps at Abhinav receiving confirmation of his value to Abhir. If that had been me, I would have been consumed by a profound sense of guilt at the insecurity taking hold of my child because my issues and decisions had robbed my child of his carefree innocence. Akshara though, because of her enormous self belief would not feel an ounce of this. Waiting in the wings is part two of the pain for Abhir, as he learns he has also been living a lie with Docman.
@Rai, I felt pain for Abhir, Akshara’s relief will come at the cost of her child’s pain and insecurities. because Abhir has a character trait of Abhinav, even if he knows how to hide it better than him. this child keeps everything for him until he can no longer hold it back or things get worse, his dream was the manifestation of everything that went through his head since he knew the half truth about his father. Adult decisions affect this child. Akshara actually doesn’t feel Abhir’s problems, and maybe when he finds out about Abhimanyu he won’t react right away because he is used to keeping his emotions to himself and showing that everything is fine.
@ Yeol, yes you are right. I hadn’t picked that up, they are now showing Abhir at an emotional level being similar to the orphaned Abhinav. Before he was cast as a mini-Abhimanyu.
Your analysis of the last scene of today’s episode is so relevant as I must commend you. Akshara’s self belief is so evident that she is unable to see any wrong in what she has done. The guilt coincidentally falls on the two and half men in her life who are under various emotional pressures and strains. She will never feel any guilt unless it concerns Abhir’s life or Abhinav leaving her alone which are extreme circumstances.
Abhir will undoubtedly suffer again at the conclusion of the custody case as Manjiri tries to remould him into a scion of the Birla family just as she had done in the past with Neil. However here the combined stubbornness of his two real parents will definitely resurface in Abhir to some noteworthy effects.
@Rai
I beg to differ. Children like Abhir, who face insecurity and fear of abandonment is not a result of secrets but absence of real dad who was never in the picture. Had Akshu and Nav told him that Nav is not his real dad from when he began to talk well, he would never understand that his dad did not abandon him no matter how Navra would explain.
Manyu not being in the picture, is a result of Akshu mistake that got him mad and Manyus mistake of not listening thus misleading Akshu and Nav and not taking care of Akshu despite her condition then and ousting her.
They both contributed to Manyus absence and hence Abhir will have to bear this pain because of them.
Now, this custody would have helped in setting boundaries and reminding the parents that it is about abhir when court makes the decision based on Abhir well being but then the grandparents spoilled it when they put conditions if they win or loose. The conditions are what i dont agree. Because if any side win, its up to Abhir to choose if he want to know Manyu, or not.
@Mark, today Abhir very clearly expressed his fear of abandonment by Abhinav. Why, because the secret of him not being his real Dad is out. Wouldn’t the driving feeling arising from an absent parent be the fear of rejection. Lets see if Abhir experiences exhits commitment issues with Abhimanyu though he was not an absent parent. How can he be accused of this when he was unaware that Abhir existed. And this was because the child and biological father were kept a secret from one each other by Akshara. Feelings emerge from many things and states, and in Abhir’s case the secrets on which his life is based are unravelling to leave him with feeling of distrust, confusion, fear of loss, rejection and abandonment. Not sure if the writers would go so far but as he goes through life he would develop trust and commitment issues, because his primary carer givers lied to him. The original Kairav was shown to be fairly vulnerable emotionally, the new one had anger, distrust and abandonment in high degrees – why because his mother Naira too kept him and his father Kartik a secret from each other.
@Meed, thank you. I really felt the Abhir’s pain today. Good writing. Hope the little investigator applies his super understanding to help him through the mess the adults are creating.
@yeol
This is you bringing up the past and suggesting Manyu is a victim. ” it is true that both fathers are doing their best even though Abhimanyu will certainly never have the place that Abhinav has in Abhir’s life.” We all from here on agree that both did mistakes and its high time characters and audience stop hiding behind neils death and blame everything on Akshu or Manyu. After leap, we began anew and we are here now because of a mistake that Manyu did in the past which he was never a victim from. He participated equally.